"*edited to add* Lorrix, you WILL find those people here. How long have you been here? If you stick around for a bit, I'm sure you would change your opinion on that. Puppymillers AND backyard breeders do come here."
I'm new here. I mentioned that in my post and it says so under my name, but perhaps you skipped that part. ;)
And while I'm sure that there is some presence of puppy millers and bad breeders here, I don't think they're as prominent as the nasty comments, and I don't feel that the original poster is as deserving as folks are hoping he is.
So much negativity in thread after thread. My point is that I don't feel that the nasty comments are going to accomplish what ya'll are hoping to.
There are a lot of organizations and activities folks can take up that will actually accomplish a lot more than bashing some poor guy who has put in a lot of love, effort, enthusiasm and care into letting his dogs have puppies that already have homes. /shrug
That's all. :)
***Edited By: Lorrix on 11/14/2006 5:48:07 PM*** Reason: spelling
i was talking to a minpin breeder about genetic testing. seems like there are only a couple of test ( out of the ones mentioned earlier in this thread) that are actually required of the breed. eddy. maybe you would be best to research a little deeper into the breed and exactly what tests should be done. not all breeds require the same tests. some need more or less than others. maybe find a mentor to help you . i would think that it would be better in the long run to have the necessary testing done on the parents prior to breeding. you may have to put out a few dollars to have it done, but it may save you alot more if you end up whelping puppies that are a genetic mess. your 5 year health guarentee would go alot farther with your customers if you had the test certificates to back them up.
There's 8 types of problems in cockers... Most people test hips and eyes. Just cause a lot of people don't bother to test anything else it doesn't actually mean that the testing 'isn't required'. It means there are many levels between okay breeder and great breeder.
Not testing for ANY flings up a red flag. Testing for all would be great, testing for something you SHOULD test for, well that should just be a given. And there shouldn't be any second throughts about doing it.
If I were going to breed my schnauzer (and that is not going to happen. I recall, when I first joined and before I knew any better I believe you laughed in my face in the chat room when I threw around the idea.), doesn't matter what may or may not be effecting her....I would want to know everything I could.
I would not be jeopardizing the health of my dog, or poor unsuspecting puppies and their awaiting families.
I don't get the drastic sudden change of heart in alot of areas you used to give a crap about before, with you Mere...
Either you're for testing and you do it right, or you're not and you don't do it at all or you do it half donkey'd... Can't have it both ways. ========== Is it *possible* to do it "most of the way?"
It seems like there are 50 things you need to do in order to be a "reputable breeder." But if a breeder posts, and says they are doing those 50 things, then someone else will come along, mention requirement #51. If you aren't doing #51, then you're no better than a puppymill.
Can will all agree that the world of breeding isn't just BLACK and WHITE? Can we agree that eddy is doing alot of the right things? And that maybe his breeding program can improve with time and experience?
actually its about learning all the facts before actually doing the deed. eddy has been given alot of useful information. wether or not he chooses to heed it, is his decision. hopefully he has took the information and will put it into practice before he goes ahead with any breeding. if he doesnt, there is not much anyone can do . people are only trying to help so he doesnt have to go the hard route. like the saying goes. " you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink".