I was told by my trainer that once Riley turned 2 I could start leaving him in the house when I left instead of the crate. But to start with one room at a time.
So, lately I've been leaving both him and Jasmine in my room with the door shut when I leave. Last time I did it for a half hour I put a video cam on and recorded them. She slept on my bed the entire time and didn't move....he barked for like 5minutes then went in his crate on his own till I got there.
Today I left them alone for 5 hours while I worked in my room. I left them toys, water, and chews, they bother with any of it. When I came home they seemed very relaxed, her on my bed again and him waiting for me.
How slowly do you think I should start to introduce more rooms they can stay in while I'm gone? I'm going to need a bigger baby gate for the hallway because I'd like to allow access to my room and parents room. Adventually leaving them the entire upstairs. Someday I'd like another pen so they can get outside to pee while I'm away too.
This is all new to me though as I've always left them in crates. I'm pretty sure I can trust both of them. Anyone else leave their dogs NOT in the crates?
Riley, its just my opinion, but I don't think you should ever give them the whole house. Far to many options, and rather than isolating them as it might seem to leave them in one room, I think it makes them feel secure. as far as allowing them access to a couple of rooms, you could do that, but move slowly. maybe just your room for about 6 mos, then both rooms?
My Sibe has run of the house while I am gone and she is good as gold. I leave for about 9 hours for work. She is a little over 2 years.
Now my two doxies (one is 2 years and the other is 1) terrorize my house if I leave them for more than 2 hours. They eat the couch and pee and poop everywhere. They never do anything of the sort while I am home even if I do not let them out for 5 hours. They also never use the bathroom in thier crate while I am gone. I think they have separation anxiety though.
Sounds like your two are pretty trustworthy to be left alone.
Right, well our upstairs is the main part of the house (bedrooms, bathrooms, living room, kitchen) and downstairs is a giant family room, laundry room, and cats room. I'd like to leave them upstairs ... keeping the bathroom doors and one bedroom door shut. Adventually.
I think just giving them more access would make me feel less bad about leaving them for hours at a time. And in future when I need to go away I can get a pet sitter. (Jasmine cannot be boarded, is not spayed, and I don't want to leave them in crates for 24hrs except the once a day a sitter comes over). But this is a goal I have not in the distant future, but someday.
Also, springers are prone to seperation anxiety. I have controlled that using the crates. I'd like to keep it that way (no issues with SA). So another reason I need to take it slow.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 11/8/2006 2:42:52 PM*** Reason: *
You are a brave, brave girl. LOL. Some of our older girls (2+) get to stay in the bedrooms when we leave, but that is about it. We have too much damagable stuff in the living room that would be very hard to replace right now (leather sectional chewed would not be cool).
I dont leave Nap out of his crate becuase I think he might get in the garbage,fish food or bird treats or Lord knows what else when i'm away. He's constantlly bringing things to us that dont belong to him..markers,dirty cloths,, flashlights, keys what ever the boys leave near his poodle paws. He wants to fetch up everything to see our surprise. But when I was a kid my parents never heard of a crate and our G.Shep always had free rein of our home and never had any trouble.
The other night when we put him up for the night we didnt latch his crate door and apparentlly he slept in there all night with the door a jar! I wont try pushing my luck though.
***Edited By: duchess on 11/8/2006 3:10:45 PM*** Reason: add
Rocky has full run of the house. We didnt leave him in one room then the next and so on first we did our bed room then all of the house. First 10 mins then a little longer and so on untill one day we went shoping I didnt think it would take to long and we didnt get back untill the next morning. Came home thinking OH NO but he was fine. Now he has full run all the time unless we are going to be gone for a day or 2 then he gets the garage, toys, blankets, lots of food, lots of water, and hes good.
Id go as fast or as slow as you think it will take. they are your dogs you know how fast they learn and how much time it takes them to get used to new things. rember if yo umove to fast you can always back track.
When I did it with rocky I didnt know him that well we had had him for not even a month. I was scared the house would catch on fire and he would be stuck in his crate. My thinking was if the house cought on fire and he was lose he would ahve a better chance. And you would be shocked at what can catch on fire. I was watching a movie one day the smoke alarm went off I walked into the back bed room and the glass top of our table was on fire. I was in shock the table was glass and metal how that happend Ill never know. The table was not hurt at all eather. crazy
anyway take your time and do what feels best to you. If you think one week a room is good go with that if you think 2 days of them been good in the room should earn them a new room go with that.
i have always left bentley out to run the house when im gone- i tried but just couldnt crate him. when he was alittle younger i put him in a xpen for him to play in till i got home- hes 11 months old and for months has been allowed well every where but the bedrooms i close the doors when im gone. we also have leather furniture and hes never messed with it. i have snuck up on him to see what he does do when im not home and he is always sitting on the back of the couch looking out the window for me to get home. poor thing- and now we have daisy- shes 11 weeks and i put her in the xpen and bentley is out during the day- she cries and yelps the hole time i assume . she use to love her crate for the first few days and now she wont go in to save her life so again im not forcing it but i wish she would like to go in and sleep like she use to. but i would feel bad leaving her in there for 8 hours while i worked . the xpen in my dinning room works fine she has plently of room to play and eat and sleep and go potty. she also is getting over really bad case of coccidia so ive allowed her more lee way with training and all that stuff just because she was soooo sick. but she is feeling bettter and im really on her with potty training her. she gets very antsy and i know she has to go potty. i started with potty pads for bentley but im not doing that with her only in her xpen while im working - also she had a iv for fluids so she has been peeing alot more and cant hold it and had the worst diarrhea is why i let her use the pads only in her xpen which she has went in and peed on the pad so that was good--- should i now take the pads away or is 11 weeks still pretty young to leave a full day? with out crating? she doesnt pee in her bedding she has a play pen she sleeps in at night and now with the dirrhea gone i have taken out the potty pad and just her bed is in there. i put her to bed at night and now she is sleeping threw the night...
mine have never been crated. they have full run of the house unless no one will be home. my bedroom is huge and so is the master bath. they have access to those two rooms when no one is home to watch them. they do fine and have never bothered anything..........yet. *knock on wood *. lol
Max has had full run of the house since he was about 9 months old, when we added Maggie, we kept them in the kitchen with a baby gate till she was trained, now they both have full run of the house. We are gone for work by 8 am and the kids get in about 3:30, so they are alone about 7 hours. The only thing that ever happens, is if my kids leave a magazine on the couch, it is torn to shreds when whe get home, but that doesn't happen very often, I usually check before we leave for mail and magazines.
None of my dogs have ever been crated. For a few weeks when Oakley was a puppy we baby gated her in the kitchen but it took her no time at all to figure out how to climb the 4 ft gate. So she has basically had full run of the house since she was about 14 weeks old. She is alone from 8am to about 3:15pm every weekday with no problems.
I think it totally depends on the dog. I used to always leave Jada in her crate, then in 'her room". It was a room off the kitchen where her crate was kept. She slept in our room, and was only crated when we were gone. Then I started leaving her out for short periods while I ran to the store, or ran next door to visit with the neighbor. Hubby would never put her up and she did fine. However, she still occasionally gets into the trash, or things she's not supposed to. For the most part she's okay, but there are days when I come home and the trash is emptied. I've found out its usually the days I've been busy and unable to fully exercise her properly. As long as we keep to a rountine exercising and training she does fine. I would imagine it might be the same with your two, but I think the fact that you've crated them helped them learn how to behave when you're gone so the transistion would probably be easier for them.
I'm trying to get there with Cider. I've left her for small periods of time in my bedroom with her basket of toys, water dish like usual. Worked up to 3 hours one day but I was around the house. Afraid to leave her and leave the property so far.
i htink it completely depends on the dog. thunder is almost 9 and he cant be out and about if we are going ot be gone for a long time. he doesnt destroy any furniture or anything he just raids the kitchen and eats everything he can find, so he stays in our bedroom while we are gone. scout has been out of her crate and allowed access to the entire house since she was 5 months old. salty was crated when we first had her because she wouldnt play nice with the others at first. since her training she is now allowed free roam when we are gone.
ali i am sure your dogs paid for that leather sectional, why are they not allowed to enjoy it if they want ? all that hard work carrying, delivering and raising puppies and they dont even get to relax at the end of the day sleeping on what they worked so hard for =(
Had to laugh about Bippy's doxies! Mine that are at least 2 do pretty good when left, I think they just lay on top of the couch looking out the windows waiting for us to come back. But the other 3 that are around 1yr. evidently throw a party if we are gone for about 3 or more hours. Poo & pee everywhere also, any type of paper that they managed to get hold of is shredded into micro mini size pieces, trash knocked over and if the dining room chairs were not completely pushed in, then whatever was up on the table was fair game also. They managed one time to stand on a chair and get the lid off one of the food bins and ate to their hearts content. We use a different type of bin now! Phone would also be laying in the floor off the hook. Like having a bunch of teenagers!
Riley I could see going through the garbage while I wasn't home. Jasmine, nah. She'd just hang out in my bed or on the couch. She isnt a trouble maker like her brother. Although I was glad to see him on video going in his crate.
I'll see how they do the next few weeks staying in my room. Nothings been destroyed so far!!
I remember coming home when my cousins had their 2 poms. The garbage would be knocked down and in every room of the house, pictures knocked down, stuff knocked off counters, it was ridiculous.