My 3 month old pup had her third distemper vacc. last night around 7pm. She seemed fine afterwards, but didn't eat much. She fell asleep on our bed and then we put her in her bed around 1am.
This morning, there was vomit in two different places. However, she was happy when we took her out, was wagging her tail,etc. After about a 1/2 hour she took a nap. This is very common for her to do. She's only 3 months like I said. So she sleeps a lot. But she seemed like something just wasn't right. She wouldn't eat or drink.
Then at about 12pm, she threw up again. We took her to the emergency vet and explained everything. He felt around and thought he felt some sort of obstruction. So he did an xray. He showed it to us, but ofcourse we aren't doctors. We have no clue what we are looking at.
Anyway, he felt as though it would be possible for her to have intussusception. It's when the intestines start to go into eachother and cause a blockage. This is what I gather from what he said and what I found on the internet.
Then he tells us that inorder to find out if this is intersseption, he will have to give her some kind of liquid (barium or something) and xray her to see if it passes through. If it passes through, she's fine, if it doesn't then they have to opperate.
The price just to see if she has this thing was about $1500. Then another $1500 to operate.
The thing is we just brought her to the vet last night (whom I completely trust) and he gave her a complete exam. He said that she was in perfect health and looked good.
I don't see how in less than 24 hours, she suddenly developed this problem. I think my vet would have felt something yesterday.
Needless to say, I don't have pet insurance. I have a plan for my other dog, but found a better one that I wanted to put them both on. But I had to wait until Dec.6th to cancel.
We decided to wait until our vet opens tomorrow and take her there. In the meantime, the e-vet gave us some meds to administer every 8 hours. He gave her a shot for dehydration (she was slightly dehydrated) and told us that in 6 hours to give her boiled meat and rice (1:4 ration, more rice). We gave it to her and she ate it all. She was starving. Now, 3 hours later she threw it up. She won't drink any water and we haven't tried feeding her again.
I don't know what to do. We can't afford to pay for the e-vet to even FIND OUT if this is what she has, never mind the surgery itself. I don't know if I should bring her back to the e-vet or continue to wait until morning.
I am kicking myself for not just getting the insurance as soon as we got her (a month ago).
But I can't worry about shoulda,, coulda, woulda. I need to know what to do NOW.
***Edited By: puppylove519 on 11/24/2006 12:47:05 AM*** Reason: spelling of intussusception
I would watch your puppy closely. If she seems to get worse she would need to go back to the e-vet, but I can totally understand the money situation. Regardless she needs to go to your regular vet as soon as they open. A blockage is not something you can mess around with for very long if thats what it is.
Intussusception always requires surgery and is not that common put does seem to strike puppies and younger dogs more than adults. What kind of blockage did the E vet see? some things can move on their own, like if he ate a small rock or some fuzz from a stuffed animal.
Has your puppy had a diarrhea? I always think of Parvo when young puppies vomit. Parvo can also be a cause of intussusception and worms too, has your pup been wormed?
You can monitor her overnight and wait to see your regular vet in the morning but if it is intussusception your pup will fade fast and need the surgery, it is fatal if left untreated. If the symptoms get worse I would go back to the E vet, they can do a barium xray at the very least to see what passes, when my pup had Parvo they did an ultrasound because they thought she may have intussuscetion, I know the costs are outrageous but you can always apply for care credit. You can apply online at www.carecredit.com and get approved instantly
I wish I had more knowledge or better advice for you, just watch out for dehydration, puppies can dehydrate very quickly. Good luck
Sounds like it could be a vaccine reaction. Some pets are allergic to the vaccines given. Let your vet know right away if your pet is acting strange after vaccines. Some reactions can be deadly! Vomiting, swollen face or lethargy are all signs of a reaction. Contact your vet right away if you see any signs after being vaccinated. The worst reactions happen within an hour.
For your pup's next vaccine tell your vet so the pup can have a shot of Benadryl before the vaccines to stop the reaction.
Well you did the right thing by giving the vaccine, because distemper is so deadly you just can't take chances with it. When is your regular veterinarian going to open again? I dont know what to tell you, Emergency vets are not cheap unfortunately :P
I am not so sure that a vaccine reaction would cause intussusception in a dog personally. I've read a few sites on it and the most common causes are parasites, a growth, and secondary effect of some kind of intestinal inflammation. Well and ideopathic (which means no known cause). In general it can't be prevented.
Is your dog vomiting blood?
Not sure if you are aware of this but there is a NASTY dog virus going around, my dog Riddick was hit by it. It caused vomiting, general nausea.... no diarrhea though that I witnessed anyway. He didnt' want to drink... it was successfully treated with injections of antivomiting medication and intraveneous fluids, and ended up costing us about $300 total, which included 2 nights at the vet's office.
If your dog is pooping, it's highly unlikely that your dog has intussusseption, as it means stuff is moving through his bowels. Did the Emergency vet do a chem panel or a CBC? $1500 for an x-ray is outrageous I dont care if it's an emergency vet or not.
We were up with her all night and let her sleep in our bed to monitor her. She threw up a little at 3am, but was fine the rest of the night. She's not throwing up blood, just whatever she eats. Right now that's just rice and meat.
This morning, we gave her some more food and she ate it all. She was really hungry. Then a little while later she pooped. It wasn't anything crazy, it was dark and a small amount. But, she also hasn't eaten and rice does bind you. She's not drinking at all.
We called our vet as soon as they opened this morning and explained the entire situation. They gave us a 2:30 appointment. So I'm figuring they don't think it's as seroious as the e-vet said. Otherwise why would they give us such a late appointment? An emergency is an emergency.
Anyway, we are going to bring her stool sample so they can check it out.
Sometimes I feel like when you bring your dog to the emergency vet, they TRY to find something wrong. Does anyone else feel like this?
Minnyar, it sounds like she might have that virus that you said your dog had. She doesn't have diarrhea and she's not drinking.
She also was playing a little with my other dog,but then came over to me and fell asleep on my lap. Also,my husband came inside and she was wagging her tail and looked happy.
Thanks for all the advice. I really appreciate it and I'll keep you updated on what is going one.
Well...what a weekend we had! I brought Hilo to our vet yesterday. He did another xray and examined her. This time, she yelped while he touched her. It was so sad to listen to. He compared the xray to the day before's and felt that it really could be the intusseception. He told us to go to a different emergency vet (one about 1/2 hour away) b/c she needed to be monitored during the night. We were so scared when he told us this.
We hurried and drove right over the the vet. He was sooo nice. He compared both xrays again and said that she actually looked better from yesterday. He said it looked like there was more gas inside of her. Which, he said, is acutally a good sign. A sign that everything was starting to work again.
He gave us three options and the pros and cons for each. One was exploratory surgery, another was giving her a barium, and the third was to keep her over night, put her in IV to hydrate her. Then he would do a third xray.
We chose the third one. So we had to leave her overnight. They let us go in the back to say goodbye to her. They already had her on IV and she already seemed so much better.
They told us we could call at anytime to check on her. We called after about an hour. They had her blood work back and said everything was good. The vet told us to call at anytime and ofcourse he would call us with any new info. We called at about 12am and they told us she had ate and even peed!
We called again this morning and they told us we could pick her up at 3pm and that she was good to go!
So she didn't have the intusseception and basically she was dehydrated from vomiting. They said she probably ate something that didn't agree with her and that's what caused her to throw up the first time. Then she became slightly dehydrated and that swelled her intestines, which caused more vomiting, which caused her to become more dehydrated....and so on and so on.
Anyway, she is back to normal and playing and getting into trouble! You have no idea how happy we are that she is ok. Now we have to figure out what upset her stomach... I did give her a piece of mozzarella the night before so maybe that's what it was. That's the only different thing I can think of. I gave her American before and that didn't bother her, but I know mozzarella is made differently.
Here is food for thought, if your dog has a problem with vomiting again. It is best, if your dog starts vomiting, to withhold food for 12-24 hours, ALWAYS incourage water intake. Different size puppies react at different rates to dehydration. Some puppies can handle a <5% dehydration rate, some can not. Dehydration can cause pale gums, nausa, lathargic behavor. The best way to treat for this at home is to give small amounts of fluid, best if mix w/pedilite, like a table spoon every 15 mins. This small amount will not upset the stomach. You can also inject fluids under the skin, but that is hard for some people to do, so I just suggest using a syring of sorts, giving about 2cc every 15 mins. If you dog drinks on his/her own and throws up, then they are drinking to much at a time, and limit how much they can drink. The best thing to do is offer an ice cube. They will get water but not too much at a time and upset the tummy. I suggest to get the book" Dog Owner's home Veterinary Handbook" It will even list the OTC drugs you can give to your dog for gas, diarrhea, motion sickness, snezzing, cough suppressant, expectorant. It list "symptoms" and possible causes. This information can save you big money cost at an Emergancy service, when you may be able just to waite until your vet is open.
***Edited By: jojoclown on 11/26/2006 12:22:00 AM*** Reason: spelling