Crate training: He actually poops and pees right in the kennel. He goes outside in the morning, then in the kennel sometimes before we get home from work.
He will not go at night, while he is in our room. He used to, but has since stopped. There was an episode not to long ago where he seemed to go in his sleep. Hosed us down, right in the bed. Has not happened since.
We take him outside regularly while at home. After a year of using small vocabulary (outside to go out and potty to go potty), I've accomplished little more than him going outside when I say potty. He still goes inside.
The problem is that he gives us no indication that he needs to go. I've rewarded him for going outside with verbal praise, treats, it doesn't matter. When he needs to go, he sneaks off from us. Literally, he sneaks. Less than sixty seconds out of our sight, and he has made his way down into the basement to pee on the carpet or poop on the carpet behind the couch. If we keep him in our sight at all times, he will not go. I think he knows that we don't want him going inside, but he will not give us any clue that he needs to go. Instead, he just sneaks off.
We have begun blocking the entrance to the basement. The carpet downstairs is already ruined, but it is cheap (no padding and concrete underneath). I can repair that damage rather easily. But now, just tonight in fact, he has begun this routine upstairs. He peed while my 4 year old had him in his room. I can't have this urinating up stairs. It will soak into the carpet, the padding, and the wood underneath. I'm not willing to have my house destroyed in that fashion. I've tried everything I can think of with this dog, and could really use some help.
If I can't find some way of breaking this habit, I'm going to have to give him up. And I can't see anyone else giving him a good home, considering this problem.
An unhousebroken dog can't have the much freedom. You need ot literally leash the dog to you so it can't sneak off. Dog goes to potty whisk it outside.
As for the crate.. It sounds liek your dog lacks a denning instinct ans I don't think you can fix that.. Did your dog come from a petsotre or another place where maybe the habit was to potty in the crate before you got him?
He did come from a petstore. He has not been fixed either, and my wife seems to think that may make a difference.
The problem is that he sneaks off. He will not go in front of us. He knows better. He will sneak off at any opportunity, and that is something I simply don't know how to deal with.
I mean sure, I can leash him to my arm the entire time I'm home . . . but for how long? I don't see how that is going to fix the problem--he is sneaking. Unless I keep him leashed to me forever, which is something I'm not willing to do, I don't see how to stop this behavior.
You're paying the price for your dog's pet store days. Most pet store dogs are incredibly hard to housetrain, because they loose the denning instinct, which is what the crate encourages. The denning instinct is what makes dogs not want to pee or poop in their crate, but when a puppy is kept in a small cage in a pet store for months on end, they are forced to pee and poop in that small area and the living conditions just... burns the instinct right out of dogs. It's kind of sad really, and another one of MANY reasons why you should never get a pet store dog.
Ok so your dog isnt' neutered. Is he squatting to pee or is he lifting his leg to mark things when he goes to the bathroom? I'm going to guess he's marking and not purely urinating. Marking behavior is a little different from simple urination. Urination (as any human will tell you) is out of necessity. Marking is instinct. If you had neutered your dog before he ever started marking at age 6 months, he likely never would have started. Now there's a good chance he's developed a habit that's going to be much harder to stop. Either way get your dog neutered, it will probably help and can't hurt.
I am curious to know, what have you done to him in the past when you've caught him in the act of going potty, what's bene your reaction? Or what's your reaction when you come across a potty area in the house where he got away from you and went?
Now regarding the housetraining... start at square 1. Keep the dog on a leash at your side at all times. When he goes potty outside, praise him happily, give him a treeat, every single time. When he goes inside and you catch him in the act, pick him up and take him outside immediately, even if he is still going. I'd be pretty harsh, honestly. Not abusive or hitting him but he'd know he was in trouble. After taking him outside, keep him outside until he goes, then praise him and give him a treat. You want him to learn that going outside brings praise and rewards. If you've got him on a leash and you miss him going, he's walked away from the spot, it's too late. Smack yourself in the head with a rolled-up newspaper, clean teh spot with an enzymatic cleanr like Nature's MIracle and vow to keep a closer eye on the dog.
Keep this up for a few weeks, and when it seems that he is 'getting it' gradually let him off the leash but keep him in the same room with you by using child gates, closed doors, etc. You dont want him getting away and relapsing. Just be consistent with the praise/reward.
If he has the freedom to sneak, then he has too much freedom.
The above posters are right, if he's going to be anywhere that allows him the opportunity to sneak off, then he should be leashed to you or your wife. This allows you to watch him like a hawk...the second he makes a move to go, grab him and run him outside.
How big is his crate? He should have enough room to stand, turn around and lay down. Anything more than that and the crate is going to be too big!
How long is he in the crate during the day? Is he in there for long periods of time and he just can't hold it?
He is not lifting his leg. At all. He only does that outside, and not even always then either. When he goes in the house, he squats. The pee spots are in the middle of the floor, not near anything he could lift his leg on.
Our responses to his accidents run the range. We have tried the lifting and taking outside. We have used firm language. My wife and I have both lost our temper and yelled at him. Nothing has ever made a difference.
I understand what you are talking about with the denning instinct. He seems to have that--to a point. He does not always go in his kennel. And he sleeps with us, in our room, out of the kennel, at night. He doesn't go then.
It's the sneaking. We can go a couple of days where he doesn't get the chance to get away from us, and he wont have an accident. But the moment my son lets him out a room while my wife is doing something else (or, as just recently, if we are not within sight of him) he goes.
I was hoping that there was another option besides starting at square one again, because we have tried all that. He's not marking, he's just sneaking off to go whenever he needs to go. He even goes right after we've taken him outside and he's gone outside. I honestly think that he's become used to going in the basement, and whenever he runs down there (he is extremely curious) he smells his old urine and has to go again. But he's not lifting his leg to do this. He is squatting.
It sounds like Brooklyn needs to be in his crate any time you're not actively engaged in walking him, training him, grooming him or playing with him. When he comes in from outside he should go straight to the crate. For now, till he gets used to the patterns of going only when he's outside.
What is Brooklyn eating? If it has a really high fiber content, there might just be too much volume to hold in. When I was training my puppy it helped to switch her to a premium kibble with far less "yard pick-up."
I've also read somewhere if you do catch them in the act not to carry them out or was that puppies that were carried out were more likely to go indoors instead of learning to go out the door on their own 4 legs...
if you let up at all with him as far as always supervising then you're right back at square one, because he's learned sometimes he can go in the house by sneaking. i was told by a vet once if they get away with something once they'll try 300 more times to get away with it again. it's a real pain but it has to be 100% consistent that he is supervised.