I personally have my own doubts about no-kill shelters. I've heard of some that keep dogs that are high risk like overly aggressive dogs for years, keeping them in small crates with little contact with either human or animal. How is that better than humane euthanization?
I've heard that some no-kill shelters become so bloated with unwanted animals, they are basically like... collectors. You know, theones you see in Animal Precinct, where someone's got hundreds of dogs/cats in horrible conditions.
I have to agree with you though, I just can't see spending year after year in a cage is any better for an animal in the long run.
When I signed up to volunteer for our local SPCA, a no kill SPCA... they told me they wish they could euthanize animals that can't be adopted or are aggressive or whatever because they have to turn down perfectly adoptable pets in bad situations because theres no room. Besides the fact living 10 years in a shelter is not much of a life.
I don't support shelters that give the dogs a week to find a new home and euthanize healthy animals, but I can also understand why they do it. It's heartbreaking but something that needs to be done.
***Edited By: thelifeofriley on 12/13/2006 11:47:19 AM*** Reason: spelling
Our "no kill" shelters do eventually put them down. I think its better for a shelter to be mroe selective because when they get to the point they are keeping dogs who have next to no chance there are dogs with a lot of chance just being pts because the shelter won't even take them in.
***Edited By: joce on 12/13/2006 12:48:46 PM*** Reason: v
A shelter in Culpeper VA mixes the animals up with another shelter to get more advertisement for that animal. I like that idea, they keep the animal for a few months if their not adopted they send to their sister kennel for adoption then still if nothing after so many months the dog is sent on to another one. It's a huge rotating circle, but that way different people get to see the animal and their chances of getting adopted are better.
The no kill shelter we got our shepherd at about a month or so ago is terrific. They seem to have a steady stream of traffic in there, too, and it seems that they have a fairly quick adoption rate.
I can't adopt them all, I wish I could. I can't donate to them all or support them all, but when I can or do, I really try to support the no kill, because in a sea of sadness, they really do stand out as people trying to make a difference, and the amazing thing is that they're privately run...they depend on donations to get them by.
It's clean-has always smelled nice any time I've gone through there, the animals are exercised several times a day, they have enough of their own property that the dogs are taken on nature walks and they have volunteers that provide them with individual attention. They have their own kennels that are cleaned, fresh food and water right in there with blankets and toys for each dog.
The people who work there are really nice, too, and they clearly care about the animals and you can tell by some of the things they jot down in their files after walks or play time. The lady who helped us with our adoption knew our dog from the first time he'd been in there and was so emotional to see him go again that I was really touched.
Our dog had been adopted by a family, and then returned...I guess they couldn't figure out that leaving an 11 month old dog with separation anxiety alone and unconfined for 12 hours a day was their fault, not his, so the people there knew our dog from his first time through there, and he was only there for his second time for three days before we lucked out and found him. Didn't take long for us to figure out what his problems were and do what we needed to do to make him happier, so there's no way he's ever going back. I'd dump my husband off there before my dog. :)
They also have a behavioral hot line, so if a new owner has issues with their new pets, they can call and get help. I think that they adopt out with the "forever home" in mind.
I'm rambling, my apologies. I've been to Starbucks twice already. heh.
***Edited By: Lorrix on 12/13/2006 1:21:07 PM*** Reason: i r spel gud.
The no-kill shelter here has been shut down by the state at least once, maybe more times for horrendous conditions. Mice in the feed, dead mice in the water bowls, feces everywhere, diseases running rampant through all the cats, no socialization, deteriorating buildings, and on through a seemingly endless list. It is run by one woman and staffed by volunteers. Without funding and a huge amount of community support a person running a no-kill shelter finds themselves in the same position as an animal collector. They believe they do good but the animals suffer. They make it impossible to meet all the conditions to adopt so nobody ever adopts from them. They don't want to part with the animals, they complain about how everyone else takes care of animals, and are the first to scream "deplorable" when they hear of the local kill shelter not having air conditioning for a day or two while ignoring the misery in their own facility. Other animal protection agencies try to keep a distance, not willing to go against a shelter they've sent animals to - it's bad publicity. The animals languish in tiny, dirty crates and are simply kept alive. The woman needs help but seems to have a blind spot when it comes to admitting it. It takes a state-mandated shutdown for them to allow the community to get involved beyond handing them cash donations. I personally know people who tried to donate their time or feed there and were yelled at and made to feel like criminals for not doing more and giving money. I sure hope this is not the typical no-kill shelter.
Our no-kill shelter is wonderful. Dogs are not kept in cages. They have free run of several, fenced-in acres. There are a few wading pools scattered around in the summer. (There are, of course, a few kennels and separate runs.) If one dog doesn't get along with another, they are rotated so that no dog is ever stuck in a kennel or cage all the time, and every dog has a chance to run and play and interact with visitors and staff alike. Dogs that are elderly or can't take the heat have access to air conditioned buildings in the summer. There are dog toys laying all over the place. There are volunteers who walk dogs each day, so everyone gets a chance for individual attention. It's too bad all shelters can't be like that.
Seeing an animal that has gone cage crazy, is extremely heart breaking. Their life is pacing, and spinning.
In a dog friendly world, if it is going to be a no kill shelter, it should be like a farm.....where the animals can at least exercise with run and play. Interact with each other. Adequate fencing and enough volunteers/staff to socialize them and meet some of their emotional needs. That way, if someone wanted to go and try to pick out a dog, they could see the real dog. Not the shell of what the dog used to be.
We are so worried about buying all this land and putting up strip mall, after strip mall after 7-eleven, after gas stations ....why not make a sanctuary for some very unlucky animals who may have to spend quite a bit of time there before finding their home. All of these filthy rich movie stars, sports stars, music stars, Bill Gates... and there are still tragic issues like this in what is supposed to be one of the best countries.
My local Humane Society is no-kill, for them, they turn down dogs that they consider to be unadoptable etc, i believe. Altho when they had an outbreak of FIP (feline infectios peritonitis) they PTS infected cats. I just feel awful about the pets who only have 24 hours in the shelter, only 24 hours to be seen by potential adopters. We do occatioally get puppies, altho their got fairly quickly, w/ black lab types lasting the longest, in puppies or adults.
I can understand your point but all I have to say it that if Linda (from petpals inc.) would not have saved Wiley for over a year I would never had the pleasure and joy of him being part of my family! I'm sure glad they saved him. Wiley has brought so much into my life.
The no kill shelter where he was from are only kenneled at night and during the day they can run and play in the fence lots.
Wiley does have problems with being scared of people but that's not the no kill shelters fault it is the sob that beat him!
Few months ago I rescued a 5 months old kitten that was living in peoples backyards. he was very friendly, and survived by eating leftovers from local homes, but noone seemed to give him a home. I took this kitten in, and I called all local no-kill shelters and they all refused to take him in. This kitten was very addoptable, as he was people friendly, dog friendly, and cats friendly. It would probably take a week or two to find him a new home, but I was turned down by many many no-kill shelters. Finally, I found him a home on my own, but I still have mixed thoughts about these shelters. What I was told by some of them, I had to put this kitten first in the high-kill shelter in order to be rescued from there by no-kill shelter...
allaboutdogs, its all about buying time. First of all the no kill shelters are full! The reason they have to make you go to the kill shelter is to give the pet a few more weeks and see if it isn't adopted and to buy time to make more room.
They do end up getting as many pets as possible from the kill shelters but you can only do so much.
This is why we must all be responsible for our pets and have them spay and neutered if we are not a responsible breeder.
Don't be upset with the shelter until you work a day or two in there and see what is really going on.