for a certain color puppy ? i was thinking about this the other day. when i get my next puppy there are a couple of different breeds i am interested in. in each of these breeds there are colors i love and colors i hate, but all are standard colors.
i know it may seem a little shallow to want a certain color or to not want a certain color. but one of the things that attracted me to certain breeds were certain colors of them. for instance, when i first saw the anatolian breed, before i even knew what breed it was, it was the fawn and black mask coloring that atracted me to them and prompted me to find out what breed of dog i was looking at. since becoming more familiar with the breed i have found other colors that i really like, and some i really DON'T like at all.
if i were to get another ASD, would it be rude to ask the breeder what colors she typically gets out of her breedings and could i choose a color preference ? would there be a way to approach that subject without offending the breeder ? or if i were to get a pyr, to request one that had badger markings instead of an all white one ?
another thing i was thinking about was the spay / neuter subject. the more i read about it, the more i think i would prefer to wait until the dog is fully grown and matured before i chose to spay or neuter it, or maybe never neuter it at all. but most likely, depending on the breed itself, i would likely neuter/spay it. how would i approach a breeder on that subject ? with many breeeders adopting the spay or neuter before it leaves with its new owners, or their fear that i would become a BYB, pet over population concerns, etc., how would a breeder really know i have no intentions upon breeding my dog ?
I don't think it's rude at all to ask for a particular color. If we ever got a lab, I would prefer a chocolate. I like the color, plus, I think yellows and blacks are too common.
As for spay/neuter-we signed a contract with the breeder that we would not breed. She never specifically asked for proof that we followed through with the spay. (although I told her when we did it) I found a breeder that I trusted, and I guess she felt the same way about us.
I don't think it's rude at all. I am looking into Great pyrenees' and Newfoundlands. I would ONLY like a Bronze Newfoundland if we decide on that breed. The colors just really strike my fancy. A large bronze won some dog show on animal planet a few months back. And although I do like badger and all white I'd then want to see faces on a pyr
I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for a specific color or marking. It's silly to compare cars to dogs, but if I went to a Volvo dealership and picked out a car it would be black with beige or tan leather interior. That has always been my preference.
Nothing wrong with knowing what you want.
I am not a breeder though and am curious to know what breeder's think about this.
As for the spay and neuter, that's between you and the breeder really.
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I'm a breeder, people ask me for certain color, personality, even body type. I don't consider it rude. I figure people know what they like. The more they talk the better opportunity I have to judge them. If I like them they get one of my babies, if I don't they don't get one of my babies.
Scout I don't think it's rude at all. While we were researching and searching for a Corgi breeder for our daughter she developed certain likes/dislikes. Corgi's differ greatly in colors. The breeders we dealt with had no problems discussing colors. I think reputable breeders enjoy discussing all aspects of the their particular breed.
One of the first questions people ask is if I have fawn or brindle. They are two distinct colors and some people prefer one WAY more than the other.
In boxers there are also flashy (the ones with a lot of white on the chest, legs, and collar) or classic with black mask, that have minimal white (feet tips, some chest and maybe a small face blaze).
I know exactly what some one is looking for if they say they want a flashy fawn female. It is not rude and really if I don't have what some one is looking for and if I know of a good litter from some one else that does, I refer them on.
I don't think that it is rude to ask a breeder for "specific" color, or even gender. We are still in the process of looking for a boxer puppy, so for instance, I told one breeder, I am interested in a male brindle with black mask, and they said that "If they don't have any this litter, I can either wait for the next litter or take my choice of what is left from this litter" depending where my name is on the waiting list.
Most all of our orders are placed with a certain color request. I generally know what I will get color wise form breedings and can let them know when and if I will be having that color. Not rude at all.
when we were looking for our first frenchie, i didnt know they had a variety of colors. i have always loved the black faced fawn dogs like the mastiff, bull mastiff, great dane, etc. i came accross some pics of black masked fawn frenchie pups and knew thats what i wanted. i contacted several breeders with my particular color request and none of them were offended at all. i even got referals to other breeders that usually had litters in that color.
I do not think it is rude at all. When we got Mia, we were after a certain color and coat type. I think a color makes a BIG difference. It is sometimes the dif between liking and disliking a breed. I think most breeders would understand that!
As for spay/neuter, I FIRMLY believe it is a highly personal preference. I'm not going to have my dogs fixed because of the carelessness of other dog owners. I won't live around others' mistakes. I believe it is an unnessecary surgery, and that is what I have based upon with my past dogs, and will continue to do so.
No one tells us what to do with our human kids. We don't sign any contracts after delivery of our human babies, etc. It is the same concept with dogs, IMO.
Not that we're going to neuter our human boys....LOL, funny thought.
Contracts work both ways. Generally people have to do certian things, like spay/neuter or return the puppy/dog to the breeder if they can no longer keep it, but they get a health guarantee in return-- unless you say just as with a human baby, that any health problems are your responsiblity as with the adoption of a human baby.
I looked in to adopting a foriegn child and adoption agencies will NOT guarantee the health of the child. So will do certian major tests like HIV/AIDS, but they are few. I am sure that some unsuspecting families stepped in to a world of medical bills and heartache because of it.
I think contracts are necessary in our current society, because they set clear expectations and boundaries for all parties, and are meant to protect the buyer, the breeder, and most of all the puppy.
Hmmm, when I brought up color to the breeder I got piper from I got a little lecture about how color should be so low on the list. She went on to tell me what is important to look for. LOL, stopped though when I said this dog was going to be part of my family and loved and cherished and, well, that would be easier if I found it attactive to look at. I don't think it's rude at all, I think it's human nature to be more attracted to some than others. :)
I don't think it's rude at all. If it is, I've stepped on many toes. There's going to be something that attracts you to a breed in the first place *physically*, so I think it'll only be natural to seek that once you start looking.
I've had breeders ask for my preferences and I'm more than willing to let them know.
I dont think it is rude at all to ask about certain colors or anything you want to know about. But let me ask you this, if you ask a breeder what colors they produce and she says well we cant guarantee color because it can go back in the family and they can pull anything, what does that mean? I mean is that a good sign or not?
Its far from rude to ask for a certain color. Some breeds, like my own, come in a huge range of colors so one of the first few questions i ask is "Do you have a color preference?" Some people don't like black dogs, some people don't like orange, etc...
I personally hate orange tabby cats, i think they're boring, and if a breeder was offended by that then they're not the breeder for me.
One thing to keep in mind though when being picky is that your color preference may not even show up in the litter and then you're screwed unless you like to settle for something differant.
I think just an intelligent conversation would do. Just tell the breeder your experiences and your reasons for prefering to wait to have it done. Who knows-maybe the breeder will agree with your research. And even if he/she doesn't, may be flexible enough to allow you to make your own decision as to if/when it should be done. After all, it's not as if you are a novice dog owner. Between the dogs you have and your on-job experience, I think anything you say would be taken into consideration.
I would talk with them over the phone (as opposed to email) to cover the spay/neuter subject. Tell them it is a personal decision. If need be, they can have you sign a contract saying you won't breed, but nothing covering neutering or not. That may satisfy the breeder?