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OT ~ Saddam Hussein hanged
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Posted: 8:10:13 PM 1/2/2007
how do you feel on this subject?
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Posted: 8:11:22 PM 1/2/2007
Pinky, are you asking ME how I feel or people in general?
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Posted: 8:11:59 PM 1/2/2007
you?
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Posted: 8:21:36 PM 1/2/2007
I have mixed feelings. I voted for Bush jr. the first round when I was 19. Some while later..

I was in bed, completely loaded up on vicodin from having my wisdom teeth pulled the day before, when my now MIL woke me to watch the twin towers fall. I was in a medication induced fog but I remember thinking...this is the beginning. I still don't know what it was the beginning of. And a while later when the US started the night raids and bombings on CNN me and fellow dental assistants watched in the break room. I also felt then that it was the beginning of something new.

On and after 911 we mourned, as a whole. During the bombing's we sought revenge. More lives were taken. And as of this very minute I have several close friend's serving time in Iraq. They are serving a cause they believe in and keeping my freedom for me. I feel pretty uncertain about the US's general safety and I am afraid for the day in the futute when I am again watching horendous events unfold on the television and thinking this is the beginning...I'm scared what it will be the beginning of.

I want my friends home safe...

That's how I feel about this subject.
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Posted: 8:26:37 PM 1/2/2007
ya I hope my friend comes home from iraq also. his name is micheal todd. he's a good soldier. buthe know's what he's fighting for. but I don't think this war is over yet!

***Edited By: pinky girl on 1/2/2007 8:28:40 PM***
Reason: computer feeked out and sent it out before I wanted to send it!
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Posted: 10:32:13 PM 1/2/2007
I was riding in my truck just a bit ago and put a cd into the player. And a song played that made me think of this thread. Its Pink Floyd's On the turning away...and I wanna share the video and the lyrics to this song. For me its a very touching and moving song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5cL-3C0wk

On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we wont understand
Dont accept that whats happening
Is just a case of others suffering
Or youll find that youre joining in
The turning away

Its a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that were all alone
In the dream of the proud

On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerized as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night

No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
Its not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that therell be
No more turning away?
test
Posted: 10:32:31 PM 1/2/2007
sorry dang double post

***Edited By: Rebel on 1/2/2007 10:33:16 PM***
Reason: add
test
Posted: 10:51:09 PM 1/2/2007
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JWLp1AWtHMs

another reason why terrorism should not go unpunished.
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Posted: 7:49:55 AM 1/3/2007
I agree that terrorism shouldnt go unpunished..but we hung Saddam who did not do ANYTHING to us!!!

Lets show what the govt doesnt want us all to see!!Why are they blocking these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJWW-H3krg
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Posted: 9:57:03 AM 1/3/2007
I thought it was well summed up by our local paper
Head line read " Suddam meet Hilter"
it was a different race he went after, but they both killed people.
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Posted: 10:53:25 AM 1/3/2007
Rebel..that is one of my favorite songs...

I always envisioned it as a greenpeace animal rights type song...

Not many have heard of it, I am sure...
test
Posted: 6:12:42 PM 1/3/2007
I know this topic is finally fading but I just wanted to comment to Trauma Mama.....

In reference to your post about how we hung Sadam who didn't do anything to us.........

If you are walking down the street, and you see a puppy getting beaten horribly by someone, you are not just going to allow it to happen, are you? If you are like most people, you would intervene. You would probably do your best to help that innocent pup and if you could you would probably try to get the person who was beating this puppy punished(prosecuted, etc.) You would not just 'let it go' because it was not you puppy, right?

Sometimes people have to think about others and quit dividing us into more then one group. We all live on this earth and we all start out having the same rights, when someone hurts or kills another person, no matter where it is in this world, it SHOULD affect everyone. People should not only get in trouble for doing bad things if it directly affects us, because as combined inhabitants of this planet, it is ALL OF OUR duty to protect each other.

Allowing other countries to treat their people horribly and kill them for no reason, and not doing anything is, in my mind, just as bad on our part. By not doing anything, we are just as guilty. If you see someone getting bullied, and you do not stop it, one way or another, then you have allowed it to happen. THAT is wrong!

Just my opinion.
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Posted: 6:41:02 PM 1/3/2007
Wow. Katz, I have to say I agree with you.

There are new laws in Washington state about watching or letting thing's happen and being held as an accomplice.

If you don't entervene you are in the law's opinion and my opinion an accomplice to the act!

I kind of wish the people that see Iran and Iraq and a problem would throw some money and solider's towards DARFUR.
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Posted: 9:22:20 PM 1/3/2007
Husky- I'm not speaking of Bush going after Saddam. Saddam did horrible things to his own people and if given the chance, would have done things TEN times worse to us. Finding and executing Sadam, is just the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.

The question was, what would you have done if you were president? There was not one mention of Saddam.
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Posted: 9:25:59 PM 1/3/2007
Exactly Katz...
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Posted: 9:33:30 PM 1/3/2007
I'm not going to be political we will not solve anything that way.

But the topic was Sadam's hanging. We did not hang Sadam, his people hung him for crimes against his people. His crimes, his punishment.
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Posted: 7:45:06 AM 1/4/2007
and do you ALL Know that we GAVE Saddam the very agents he swung from the gallows for!?!?!

http://www.namebase.org/ppost12.html

According to a Senate Committee Report of 1994 [1]: From 1985, if not earlier, through 1989, a veritable witch's brew of biological materials were exported to Iraq by private American suppliers pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce. Amongst these materials, which often produce slow, agonizing deaths, were:

Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.
Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.
Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord and heart.
Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.
Clotsridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.
Clostridium tetani, highly toxigenic.

Also, Escherichia Coli (E.Coli); genetic materials; human and bacterial DNA. Dozens of other pathogenic biological agents were shipped to Iraq during the 1980s. The Senate Report pointed out: "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."
"It was later learned," the committee revealed, "that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."

http://www.unknownnews.net/saddam.html


As well as anthrax and botulism, the USA also sent West Nile fever, brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene. The shipments even went on after Saddam ordered the gassing of the Kurdish town of Halabja, in which some 5000 people died, in March 1988.


***Edited By: TraumaMamma on 1/4/2007 10:02:37 AM***
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test
Posted: 10:37:38 AM 1/4/2007
Many people are given things, guns, knifes, etc. It is how you choose to use them that ultimately determines your fate. Why are you defending this mass murderer so much? Besides WE did not hang Saddam, his own people did, he was NOT in the US, all we did was return him.

If a dog was killing multiple people, for no reason other then aggressiveness, you can make up all the reasons you want about WHY he turned so aggressive, but you show me one dog that has seriousely injured or killed a person and has been left to live. It might be due to a crappy reason that they turned aggressive, but the FACT is, they are. They are dangerous and cannot be trusted to EVER be around humans again.

Now intensify that by THOUSANDS and with absolutely no remorse or sympathy and probably many more slow and painful deaths. Tell me why this dangerous 'man' deserved to take up space again?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/07/iraq/main823966.shtml

http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2003/ajan/27_saddam.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061226/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam_s_sentence
(here you will read that IRAQ is the one that sentenced him to death, not the US)


test
Posted: 11:15:52 AM 1/4/2007
I was going to stay our of this until Traummamom said Saddam didn't do anything to us....who do you think was funding terrorists??? Oh that's right Saddam and what terrorist do you think it was Osama and what did Osama do??? Had his goons fly planes into 2 towers and the Pentagon that killed thousands of people....so don't say Saddam didn't do anything to us.
When they took down his home in Iraq they found links between him and Osama. My cousin was there and saw the paperwork so that cannot be disputed with me at all ever.
In addition, my husband was over there and he knows what good we have done, the schools, the "churches" that have been rebuilt thanks to us. The world always wants the US to handle the issues of the world and when we do poeple grip and B*$%H! Now people want us to go fix Darfor (SP) but if we do the American people will just continue to complain.
The bottom line is Bush can only please some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time.
I think he is doing a damn good job and I support him and this war 100% by the way it is not a war anymore it is an operation.
I support the troops and I support what they have done are doing and will do.
My church and I included go to Walter Reed once a month and have a lunch for the soliders and their families. One soilder Michael from Washington State lost both is legs, he said to me you can't support the troops without supporting the war. Well said and I agree.

I still don't think this topic belongs on this forum but that comment needed to be addressed.
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Posted: 11:26:22 AM 1/4/2007
regarding your *puppy* analogy...

In essence, we gave him the "stick" to beat the puppy with .

We funded and helped this guy. We gave him stuff to kill his own people with!! Why do WE have that crap, would be my question?

I never said he was a saint....or even a good person...but our own govt had a hand in this (and are thusly JUST as responsible as hussien in those peoples deaths) and saddam HAD TO DIE before our dirty little secrets regarding our relationship with him were aired. Period.

Fair trial? Hardly.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/1/4/nation/16473021&sec=nation

If your puppy was hurt and you saw another hurt puppy, and only had funds for one, who would you chose to help..

Yours, I hope.....

We have plenty of people and things to take care of right here in the US that would have benefited more from the money we are spending on the war...We should start at home...there are atrocities all over the world.....we have to save ourselves first.

In the event of an altitude drop and decompression in an airplane we are taught to put OUR O2 masks on before helping our children.....We cannot help anyone before we help ourselves first.....
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