I hope your not refering to my thread, I didn't bash any dogs or mutts at all, all dogs are equals. I was going against the fact that people breed unhealthy dogs that are going to have an uncofortable life because it so popular breeding mixes.
I always wanted a Golden Retriever, but when I found Emma my lab mix, I fell in love with HER! This argument is pointless. You love who you love and that is ALL that's important. Cherish your animal for itself and not as a boost to your ego! Who cares what anyone else thinks?
Mollydoll, Trollydoll whatever you name is today.....you are a "newbie" most likely a former banned member to a non designer mix forum. It is not the mix..... it is how they are bred that is the issue as I am sure you already know that because you are so smart.
Now I am sure you will be most welcome on the millers forum so why don't you go play in thier sandbox......just be careful of the diseases...piles of poo under your wire cage bottom floor that your feet rest on, in the dark, with no teeth, broken limbs & prego. It's ok to tinkle & poddy on your neighbors below your tiny cage too.
Rhonda, that would have been kind of on point if someone had been defending puppy mill practices. I won't say the issues don't overlap. But if intentional crosses go out of style, those millers will just go back to cranking out 100 percent unfortunate purebreds like they did before. They only make what they can sell.
And since you're the one crashing the thread to talk trash, who's the troll here?
JoanEK, you can go back and see how long rhonda has been a member of this forum. she has a right to reply with her opinion the same as anyone else. because it is different than that of the op's, does in no way , make her a troll.
JoanEK.....I'm so sorry that you don't understand my post......these mixes ARE all about about puppymills & BYB's. Yes they still breed purebreds too...it's a simple thing called suppy & demand......it you don't buy they won't be able to continue to supply. It's all about education. If you ever saw a mill or dog auction you would be appauled unless that's your thing. The dogs are livestock for breeding only. When that puppy gets sold....the mom & daddy dog are still behind suffering horribly.
Rhonda, nobody who’s read my posts, even just on this thread, even just the ones on this page, could conclude that puppy mills are my thing. So bite me. But the subject is intentional mixes. I know millers are producing them, as you can see from reading what I’ve written here. But it’s a separate issue from why those mixes are popular. And it’s also true that there are breeders out there who put out certain mixes and do most of the things that responsible breeders are considered obligated to do. My sister bought a ¾ poodle/ ¼ lab from a breeder like that. You’d hate her, but if she were breeding Labs instead, you wouldn’t have a problem with the conditions and health checks in her operation. Many dogs trained by Lighthouse For The Blind come from her lines. You could also condemn my sister, whose rescue mix (newfie/poodle, an actual oops baby) had recently died. This little guy she bought was about as close a match as she could find. Believe me, we all talked up shelters to her, and we talked up waiting, but like so many people, she wouldn’t wait. And now that it’s been a few months, she couldn’t be happier, and nobody will ever convince her she made a mistake. And the dog is happy too. My sister knows from puppy mills and would never support them. Past that, and she speaks for millions, she'd say it’s nobody else’s damn business.
***Edited By: JoanEK on 1/11/2007 4:18:42 PM*** Reason: add
<<If your sister knows why did she support an irresponsible breeder? Wandering_Spirit >>
Cheeky of me to speak for her, but I'll try. Like I said, it's mills she's got the problem with. Because of the conditions and because of the health issues. And she would disagree with your premise that this breeder was irresponsible.
If a breeder (okay, a "breeder") is producing lab/poodle mixes, they can't do enough health checks, or screen their buyers carefully enough, or keep their stock safe and comfortable and socialized enough, to be considered responsible by someone like you. Because by definition, making mixes on purpose is considered an abomination from your point of view. I get that. But my sister isn't part of the Dog Fancy world, and all your issues are not all her issues. She doesn't consider herself under any obligation to support only breeders who breed for the good of a certain breed. Like most people, she simply felt free to buy the pet she wanted, not the pet someone else was telling her she should want instead. And I've gotta think that viewpoint is so prevalent, and so ingrained into our culture, that activists have what might be an impossible goal to try and change it. I don't oppose your trying, and I truly regret if my words make me sound cynical or uncaring. It's just that unless we go totalitarian in this country, it's hard for me to imagine anything bringing about your vision of how it should be.
***Edited By: JoanEK on 1/11/2007 5:02:35 PM*** Reason: add
If they are breeding healthy dogs with all the testing done. Supplying families with healthy pups that make good PETS. If these breeders have nothing to hide then all there animals see the vet and come with a health record and garentee(sp). Why do so many of you call this irresponable and puppy milling. I breed purebred Beagles and Puggles. I only breed when I have 6 homes found and checked. my females only have one litter a year all my dogs live in my house. I get more orders for Puggles and have people wait for years to get one of my pups my last litter one family was on my waiting list since 2003 for a Puggle. I asked my vet before I had my first puggle litter and as I have said before she found me the perfect healthy pug stud to sire my pups. She sees nothing wrong with responable breeding of good healthy family pets. What she does have a problem with is people that have a purebreed and know someone that has the same breed. So they breed just because they think it will be cute to have puppies together then at 8-10 weeks and they only have homes for 1-2 puppies that was a litter of 6-8 ask the vet to help get rid of them.
I'm so glad that Joan and Molly know so much about dog breeders, as to call anyone who appreciated good breeding "snobby" or part of the "Dog Fancy" world.
Get a clue, and a grip. Your posts from here on out are just pointless. You've proved your ignorance more than enough for most members here. Though you might not care, you should, because you're making yourself look just as irresponsible.
"Get a clue, and a grip. Your posts from here on out are just pointless. You've proved your ignorance more than enough for most members here. Though you might not care, you should, because you're making yourself look just as irresponsible."
Husky do you own enough dogs to pull a dogsled. if so whats that 6-7 mid to large dogs? If so do they all live in your house when they are not made to pull you miles threw the snow and wind. Just thought I'd ask.