Why is it that unless you are against crossbreeds you are nothing or garbage on this site. From the minute I signed on I thought that the site was called terrific pets in my opinion that is what I breed terrific pets for loving families maybe chatting with other pet lovers on this site is not allowed unless you don't know anyone that has ever had contact with a crossbreed dog or breeder I bet everyone of us knows someone that has bought a mixed dog from a breeder or worse a pet shop that get all there pups from a puppy miller.
Molly Doll - The site is Terrific Pets... and it is for people who love animals. I love my 2 mutts that I got from a shelter and a rescue - I think they are the greatest dogs in the world.
However, as a dog lover who has a lot of communciation with my local shelters - I see what happens to some of the intentional crossbreeds...I've seen people get tired of their puggle when it grew to look too beaglish... it didn't look as CUTE when it got older as it did when it was small... ya know what? It breaks my heart.
Argue all you want and stand there and stomp your feet and cry because you feel that people aren't being "fair"... but no matter how big of a tantrum you throw... most people on here are not going to tell you that they agree with what you're doing.
What this site IS is a place for people to come and talk about and LEARN about their dogs and dogs in general. I have NEVER gotten any ill comments or rude remarks from ANYONE on this site and Guess What??? YES i niavely (sp) bought my pooch from a petstore.
The difference, my dear, is that before I post anything I first ask myself "am i posting this to solicit information that will help help me to become a better pet owner" or "am i posting this to be in a pain in the butt cause I know the kind of responses I'm going to get back"
I've repeated this a million times and I'll say it again... Until coming to TerrificPets I had no idea about what life is really like for for puppymill/petstore dogs. Thank you TP for teaching me to become a better more responsilbe pet owner and supporter of the cause to reduce the number of abused/unwanted animals because God knows that if it were up to them, they would not choose to live as they are.
Just a note - the level of respect that is given is the same as the level of respect that is received.
and before you go off accusing me of being a purebred snob....check out my SN.
***Edited By: luvmypugglebaby on 1/17/2007 4:24:32 PM*** Reason: *
I have a mutt and have never been treated any differnt then the purebred owners. I also dispise people intentionally breeding MUTTS for money.Those people should have to go look in the shelters and see what there doing with there greed.
Why is it that whenever someone doesn't agree with a breeder of mixed breeds the breeder claims we are against the dogs? No one has ever (to my knowledge) made any statement whatsoever on here saying they have anything against the dogs, only against the breeding of them. It is like when teachers and parents disagree about the child's education and the teacher claims the parents are against children. It makes no sense and any intelligent person should be able to clearly see the difference. As far as I have seen most people on here with any kind of experience with dogs will do all they can to help any dog owner with information and good advice whether the dog happens to be purebred or mixed. Please stop confusing the issue. We love dogs even if they are mixed and I strongly resent people repeatedly telling us we don't just because we disagree with their breeding practices.
"It is like when teachers and parents disagree about the child's education and the teacher claims the parents are against children. It makes no sense and any intelligent person should be able to clearly see the difference."
Being a teacher I just can't let this pass. I have never said or even heard another teacher say that parents are against their children. Unless you want me to fill pages with this response you are going to have to believe in me when I say that teachers want what is best for the children. There is an unbelievable amount of work that goes into teaching besides the actual teaching. I, along with most teachers I know work about 60+ hours per week, and yes, we work during the summer too. I can't imagine in what instance parents and teachers would disgaree about a child's education and the the teacher would say the parents are against the children. There are sometimes, not often, that parents feel that their child should learn everything at school and the parent should have to do nothing. That isn't possible. As a parent it's their role to help their child. Sadly, sometimes this doesn't happen, but that would be a parent not working with or for thier child, not that the parents are against the children. A quality eduction is a three way endeavor, the parent, the teacher, and the child.
I'm sorry if perhaps you have had a bad experience. I know there are bad teachers, just as there are bad people in every other profession, but please don't lump us all in that category.
As far as the rest of the post I agree about not breeding mixes, etc. I also did not know a lot of what when on before I joined this site.
Gina, I in no way meant that as a slur against teachers and apologize for giving that impression. Teachers deserve our utmost respect. It was meant as an example of something that just doesn't make sense, not something I believe to be true. I guess I worded it badly if it wasn't clear.
If I (Basset_Lover) were you (Roccos_mom), this would be how I would answer post #13...
"Sniffle, sniffle, cry, cry, pout, pout, foot stamping tirade. Roccos_mom was mean to me.
Wahhhhhh, Wahhhhhhh, Wahhhhh."
That is exactly how you sound Roccos_Mom.
As for me...
Yes, I do know have a lot of knowledge and experience with dogs and many other animals. I have raised and bred, AKC Champion Show dogs, Master Hunters, Champion Rabbits, Poultry, Ducks and Geese.
If you want to get technical, one of my Arabian mares (whom I was the breeder and trainer for), is a Champion Endurance Horse.
I don't go around tooting my own horn, but since you mentioned it, yes, I have been successful in my lifetime.
If you would care to take off your suit of armor and back down a little, you might actually learn something here at Terrific Pets. There are many others here with equally as much or more knowledge and experience with animals and they have a lot to offer.
But the key, that you seem to have a hard time understanding, is listening.
***Edited By: Basset_Lover on 1/17/2007 10:15:53 PM*** Reason: :P
I have a question (likes serious not to be like rude cause i dont want it to sound that way but i really wanna know)
I think some of you are against pet stores that buy from puppy mills right? Well i was thinking if your against the pet stores tha buy from mills. Then you wont buy there? (asking as a quesiton cause im not sure if you buy there or not) And if you dont buy there, where will those poor innocent puppies go? Shelters i supposedbut why make them go through that when you can go in and get a dog and save it from its doom later in life? I mean if we (you and I) are really for the pups then why wouldnt we let the issue of the pet store owner buying from mills get pushed behind us just for the sake of the innocent dog?
I guess it wouldnt matter if they ended up in a shelter were one of you loving pet owners would be more than willing to adopt anyway but i would think that most of you would like to not see the pup have to go through a shelter adding on top of their already sad life until they get a home.... Personally i have never bought from a pet store but when i read this forum i couldnt help but think that the dogs are innocent no matter where they came from pure or mixed whatever they all deserve homes right? let me know what you guys think.
Boxerlover, many ask that question. And unfortunately, there's really no easy way to answer it.
Basically, you don't really know. Some pet stores will euthanize the animals, but that costs money. Some will put them in shelters, and in some cases, that can cost money as well (surrendering is often accompanied with a fee).
Look at it this way...puppy mills house up to hundreds of dogs, sometimes more than we'd like to think about. By not buying that one little puppy you saw in the window, you are not opening up a space for another. You are not feeding the brokers or millers more money. Sometimes, a small sacrifice is best for the future population (which in milling cases, hopefully, doesn't occur, and gets stopped first.....in a more perfect world anyway).