I don't think anyone said everyone that leaves their dogs outside are bad owners. Some dogs are suited to live outside. But if that's what you want to hear, I think anyone with a short coated dog that is leaving it outside in freezing temperatures is a bad owner. I don't need to google anything. I've seen dogs with frostbite that have lived outside their whole lives. They don't just adapt. We created different breeds for different things and with that there are limitations to what they can do and handle. If your theory is correct a chinese crested would do fine outside if it lived outside all the time.
This is a email I sent to a friend when I found out what had happened to a dog that froze to death.
OHHH, a gal in town lost a dog the other night. It froze to death. She said now I can get a husky. I let off on her. I said there is no way in the world you are getting another dog if I have anything to do with it. You can't take care of them, they sit outside year around and just bark. Dogs can't be left alone 24-7. There are two dogs still setting there. It is so sad!!! Man I just cried when I got home thinking about that poor baby! Some flippen people!!!!!!!!!
I am very much against Chaining dogs up. NOw with having a dog outside i am not. Ppl that rescue and have a large "land" keep dogs outside. If i had 20 something dogs i would't be able to keep them all inside. People lay off rescuedog..
I am very much against chaining up dogs also. when I was growing up I used to have a dog named smokie and he was a very determened dog to breed. (I don't understand why we didn't just neuter him) but he would be the best dog ever durring the day but at night he would dig under the fence and try to breed with other dogs. so we would have to chain himup at night! I know it's sad but I couldn't do anything about it. but it made me so mad! i felt horible that I couldn't help him or anything!
I think it's a good idea to raise awareness about how deadly the cold can actually be although I would think that people should have enough common sense to know better but there will always be people that are not the sharpest knives in the drawer; having said this I think the majority simply don't care, noone can be that stupid, surely???
I find it difficult to believe that dogs truly prefer to be outside rather than inside with their human family and those that do indeed prefer staying outside only do so because they were raised that way and simply don't know any better!!! I cannot even begin to understand why some people who happen to own just the one dog will not allow it inside?
I think your dogs are going to be fraught with arthritis given that you let them swim in icy waters, Ookadahusky; that is not a good idea and since dogs don't know any better it is up to you to decide what is good for your dog. I personally don't like the idea of dogs being left outside in the middle of winter no matter how "warm" the kennel is; picture this - the dog gets out from its kennel several times during the night and gets all wet then he/she goes back to the kennel and its bedding gets all wet, how warm can a cold icy bedding really be? it just aint right in my opinion.
***Edited By: Soulmate on 1/20/2007 12:28:14 AM*** Reason: added
Soul.... Its the Lab that goes for a swim & runs 24-7.... her coat became really thick and has oils in it to repel the water off.. Labs were ment for swimming... Shes a hunting dog and is perfectly fine. My GS however does not go swimming at all.. shes not ment for it and would most likley die. We know how to take care of outside dogs. And we know what the breeds are ment for. We read up on them all the time.
This is from a Labrador site for those who think otherwise::
Obviously Labradors are water dogs...their coat is specifically designed to repel water and insulate them from cold water. Their "otter" tail is shaped such that it is used as a rudder to steer and help balance them in the water. Therefore, we recommend introducing your Labrador to the water at a young age. Your Labrador will love to retrieve objects that your throw into the water! Keep in mind that there are Labradors that do not like water (we have one!).
The main characteristics of Labradors are their coat, tail, head and temperament. They have a double coat: a soft, downy undercoat that keeps them dry and warm in cold water and a hard outer coat that helps them repel water. Their tail, described best as an otter tail, is thick at the base and tapers to a narrower point. It should not be carried over the back nor should it have a curl to it. It should, however, be at exactly coffee table height and always be ready to swipe one clean. Their head is clean cut and somewhat broad, with hanging ears. Their expression is alert and intelligent and conveys a kind, friendly temperament.
So before telling me that i should take better care of her... read up on the actual dog breed. (:
And also.. We dont have a pond on our acre? Nor a pool... And our kennels are made so they cant escape. We burried cinder blocks underneath the kennel bars so they cant dig. I find your theory impossible unless someone were to let her out.
***Edited By: Ookadahusky on 1/20/2007 8:57:33 AM*** Reason: Add in
Ookadahusky- A warning. If you use $ or other symbols to get around the clean language filter in direct violation of TP's posting rules or other words that may be construed as shortened versions of foul language, you'll be banned from the site. I don't care how argumentative you are, or how much you want to get your point across.
As an aside, I have a labrador retriever and have read up quite extensively on them, and in so many places i have read that this is a breed that NEEDS to be with people, they have a literal psychological need for it. They bond closer to people than they do other dogs. Maybe your dog is an exception to this, but it is definitely not the rule.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 1/20/2007 9:41:11 AM*** Reason: add
And my lab is CONSTINTLY with my father. Where ever he goes the lab goes to. He lives alone(Im here once in a while) so its like his company. They hunt together, go on walks, swim, everything. I dont see anything wrong with my lab being outside if it has everything she needs to be happy,warm, and healthy
How can your lab be 'constantly' with your father if she lives outside. My lab is *constantly* with my family, he is never outside of human presence for more than 4 hours a day. Unless your dad spends more than 12 every single day outdoors (and the colder the weather is, the less time I am sure he spends outdoors) you can't even honestly say that your father spends 'most of the day' in the presence of your lab.
He hunts for a majority of the day ( from 6 or 7 AM to 11AM, come back to eat and rest then go back out around 12-7 or 8.. Come back. So im sure thats enough time. Then when my father isnt there for company we have my GS to keep eachother company. Shes happy. And thats all that matters. And dogs can over heat if you bring them inside if their already use to the cold weather. Just like we're used to the warm house and if we just jump outside we'll freeze and die.
And he has a disability problem, so he doesnt work. He has the time to spend with the dogs unlike most people who keep dogs outside.
***Edited By: Ookadahusky on 1/20/2007 9:57:32 AM*** Reason: a