This may end up being a little long, but I want to be able to explain all views on this and get some honest opinions on this topic: Our Harlequin Great Dane, Skylar, had her second litter on Friday night. Lo and behold, out of the 6 pups born, the third one was almost completely white and the fourth one was mostly white with a couple of black spots. We used the same stud that we had with the first litter and this didn't happen then. My concern is that the less pigment they have, the more likely they are to be deaf and have eye problems. The vet I work for who's been in practice for 30+ years, said that I should have brought them in to be euthanized immediately. I called the other 6 vets in town and they all said the same thing. I could never bring myself to do that to perfectly innocent pups when there is no way of telling if they are deaf at the moment. On the flipside, I wouldn't be able to bring myself to euthanizing them at 6 weeks of age when it can be determined if they are deaf or not. Honestly, I couldn't euthanize otherwise healthy pups even if they are deaf. I'm wondering while all the vets are trying to push me into it. From the research I've done on the internet, deaf dogs are wonderful and just need to be with the right families. I haven't been able to find anyone that does BAER testing in the state of NE. I also will not breed the two together again. I just have always considered myself to be an ethical breeder, but now I'm starting to wonder since talking to other Dane breeders that also cull any whites at birth. If anyone has had experience with this, please let me know what you did or what you would consider the right thing to do. The pups are all doing great!
DON'T EUTHANIZE THEM! I have 3 special need danes, two deaf and one blind. You can find them homes. It just may be a little harder. Where are you in NE? There's BAER testing at the iowa state vet school if you're on the east side. I'll try to find someone closer.
They won't be euthanized. That's the problem I'm having is the vets in town and other Dane breeders are calling me unethical for making that decision. Just trying to figure out why culling the white's are so important to these people. We live in Grand Island, NE. It's pretty much in the middle of NE.
There isn't anyone in Nebraska. Here's the list of everyone that does them if you could find one close. http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/baersite.htm If you would email me with some more info about the parents and the litter.
***Edited By: danemom on 1/21/2007 11:46:22 AM*** Reason: remove
I think it's because some people don't want their names linked to 'deaf/blind' puppies, if you know what I mean. If they were 'culled', then it's like they never existed. But if they aren't culled, then down the road someone will ask the owner of that deaf/blind puppy, "Hey where'd you get your puppy from?" and when the owner tells the breeder, sire, and dam... I can see how it has the potential to make a breeder look like they just didn't know what they were doing, if you know what I mean.
What color were the litter sire and dam, out of curiosity?
So even though this didn't happen in their first litter, obviously both parents carry the merle gene which resulted in these double merle pups. As I stated earlier, these two dogs will not be bred together again.
***Edited By: gr8danzgirl on 1/21/2007 12:43:45 PM*** Reason: add
You are a little less like to get white pups with harl to harl than you are with merle to merle. Most breeders I know don't do it and if they do get a merle gene test done to see if the parents carry the MM gene without being affected. http://www.chromadane.com/harl2merle.htm
thanks for the links because sadly i didn't know what merle color looked like LOL. I love leapord dogs and that is the color they are know for. It is pretty but i now know that it is not good at all in other breeds.