Well the kids need to go and get some manners. I was debating on trying out the Petsmart training program. I talked to one of the trainers once, and she seemed really down with the whole positivie reinforcemnt, NILIF, things I do with my dogs when I'm at my home.
I'm usually hearing bad things about them, but am wondering if those ppl have ever tried thatm or just heresay?
I can not speak for all the petsmart programs but the one by me is designed to fail in my opinion.
I was shopping there and there was a class going on and the people all had long leads on their dogs. The one woman called the dog to her and the dog didn't respond so the trainer from petsmart told her to keep calling him until he does respond.
As far as I am concerned a command should be given once and only once. When you keep repeating it like that you are teaching your dog it is ok to obey when he wants and ok not to when he doesn't or at least until you say it a dozen times you are not serious about it.
Why not use that long lead you have with you to reinforce your command or encourage the dog to come when you call it.
As far as I am concerned that class was teaching failure
I am in Ohio and I did take Cody to Petsmart for training and we both enjoyed it. We only used 6' leads and they were to listen to the commands right away after they learned them. The first few times you may have had to repeat it but after that you should only say it once. We only used positive reinforcement (Cody loved this, lots and lots or treats:) We went through puppy classes and intermediate training. We will be trying for the CGC soon I hope, they need to find a tester for that that is available and hopefully in the near future we will take the Advance training class. All in all I have been very satified with their training. I know every trainer is different and every store is different but for us it has been a positive experience. Now for their grooming shop, I do not care for it. I took Cody there once and was not happy with it, only in a extreme situation would I take him back there. I will travel the extra 10 miles to the groomer I have used for years and years! :) Good luck!
It varies whether the programs are good or not (anywhere, not just petsmart), watch a class before you decide whether to go there or not. The one near my house has a great training program, but the one near my work has a very poor one. If you find the program not to be as good as you want, check out the local Humane Societies programs for training. Many have them and in my experience they are just as good if not better then petsmart/petco. I would agree the the groomers at petsmart are not very good. I brought my dog there to have his nails cut once (usually I do it, but I had a broken hand which made it nearly impossible without cutting one of us). They did jsut a terrible job from the way they clipped them (way too short) to the way they held his paws awkwardly while they clipped them( basically out to the side).
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I think they all go through the same training... It's up to you however I will tell you 1st hand I got am not a Petsmart fan either. Several of us notified the local store here in the Houston area & then took it to corp. THey had a known dog thief yes I said dog thief that worked at one of thier stores as a trainer. He'a stolen at least 4 or more dogs that I am aware of from customers before he worked there. They told me the store numbers were great & he had not stolen any Petsmart peoles dogs therefore they refused to do nothing! Nada! Zip! He is now at Petco training because they pay more. UGHHHHHHH! They won't do anything either.
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We tried to take puppy class there. 14 dogs and their people, and extra people shoved in their little ring. I got bitten twice by a rottie cross that kept coming too close. Our trainer quit/ was fired.. week 2 another lady, totally clueless.. week three random new lady also clueless. We wanted a refund, they had a fit..
Were later offered a basic class for free (Cider was over puppy class age by now) promised a small class size. There were 4 including us, the lady was fantastic. Was a regional head trainer. Was driving like 3 hours just to teach our class.. Went well, but Cider was endlessly distracted.
She was so great I decided to make the stupidly long drive to her store for advanced. She wasn't there, the training area didn't even have a barrier.. and the lady was a twit. One class and I'd had enough.
3 classes.. 2 stores.. 4 trainers and one was good.
Here on out I'd only go to an actual training facility. Worth that little bit extra for a trainer with extensive training in an area that's not doggie disneyland. At the best of times training is an effort. Setting your dog up to fail in such a busy environment is unfair. Short of it being in a room with a door to shut them off from the store, it'll be distracting.
Hmm.. I will see if they do a refund if you are unhappy. So far it's the only place close around here that trains.
But it seems like most of the problems are because of the area they're trained in. When this one, has an enclosed area for training that's got about a 4' wall surrounding it (dogs would have to stand up to see over).
Thanks for the advice. I just wish I could find a trainer close to me. ***cries***
I think the distractions are good because you want your dog to listen to you no matter what is going on. If you only train him in a quiet place, with nothing going on then you take him out into the real world with all the distractions he will want to explore and not listen. We would train and learn the commands in class with the distractions and such and then came home to perfect them quietly in our living room and the next week at class he did great and whenever we go out in public he listens very nicely because he was exposed to the distracitons during training. JMO
I think it really depends on the individual trainer and the size of the class. I've taken Merphy for the Beginner and Intermediate classes. He went to Puppy class at PetCo first. I was not impressed with Petco at all. Petsmart was much better. They do work with them on following commands with distractions, not just other people in the store, but with treats on the ground, toys squeaking, the trainers calling their names or clapping, all while the owners are working on a command.
My brother took his golden to a different PetSmart, and I took her to class twice while they were on vacation. That class was chaos! There were about 25 dogs in the class, the trainer was loud and obnoxious, and there was no organization at all. I was completely stressed out, and I'm sure I wasn't effective at teaching Abby anything! She's now a year old, and still doesn't listen worth beans. They have to tell her over and over and over to sit before she does it. With Merphy, I say it once and if it doesn't happen I say very sternly "DO IT!" and that usually works, but I learned that from a behaviorist.
Anyway, really depends on the trainer as a person. You can't really say that all PetSmart Trainers are horrible just because they work for PetSmart. Petsmart does have its own training method which all trainers are supposed to follow...but the good, or better ones, will add their own twist to it, and not train things that they think are pointless. My trainer wouldn't do clicker training. She handed them out the first day of class, and told us her own philosophy on clickers and why they aren't a good idea. I would observe a few classes before forking over a hundred bucks. If you take both dogs, they may do a buy one get one free.
Our petsmart has pretty alright training classes. They have a special part where the children train the dogs, and the parents stand aside; they usually do this with families that have just acquired a new puppy. It's awesome to see little kids working with dogs, and being taught how to approach and touch and talk to them properly.
Though, one of the trainers a few years ago happened to be a dwarf, and I saw her get toppled by a Saint Bernard puppy. Luckily, she laughed, and I didn't feel bad for laughing with her. The owner felt horrible but the trainer told her that it comes with her territory and eye level, and not to worry about it. I can't speak for all of the Petsmarts, but ours seems to hire some good people as far as training goes.
I brought my dog to basic puppy training. We have a very good experience with them. Yes the dogs can and will be distracted by customers. If a dog can't listen to a command while company and distractions are around why bother. But like one poster said just with any training check out the classes because it can be good some places and awful at other locations.
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