I have been reading alot of posts lately and iwonder why so many people are critisizing the mixed breed dog? I do not mean to be rude or sound like i'm putting anyone down. I am just wondering why so many don't like them. I grew up with full blood dogs and have had a few but i will say that i have had and do have a mi now and in alot of ways she is better than a full pedigree..just my opinion.. what is yours i am interested in hearing them. thanks all
Nobody is saying anything about the dogs. We are upset with the breeders for being unethical. There are tons of threads on this on nearly any forum you go to related to dogs.
I enjoy mutts just as much as pures, but if I want a mutt, I know not to go to a breeder just because that's the new fad. If I want a purebred, I will go to a rescue if I don't have a good reason to go to a breeder.
Dogs cannot sin; that is a privilege exclusively for humans.
I will give you the most simple answer I can, as I am one of "those people" who speaks out against breeding mixed breeds.
Keep in mind I have TWO RESCUED mutts, a Lab x Pit (at best guess) and a Lhasa x Poodle x Something
If someone wants a purebred dog go ahead and find a responsible breeder, but if you don't mind a mixed breed why not to look into a shelter?
Also for each purebred breed of dog there is a National Breed Club, each BReed club writes a code of ethics, which all responsible breeders should follow, Every single one I have come across has been against mixed breeding and FORBIDDEN it. Google The Labrador Club of America, Poodle Club of America, and Pug Club of America, all have spoken out against "designer mutts"
There are too many dogs rotting in shelters for people to be carelessly breeding more.
A cat by any other name... is still a sneaky little furball who pukes on the sofa.
Not to beat a dead horse, but everything that has already been said is true. The "breeders" who mix their dogs are only in it for the money, which does not make for an ethical breeder. A breeder should be breeding only for the betterment of the breed, and they really should limit the breeds they choose to a few (I personally think only two). People who purposefully buy mixed breed puppies are encouraging these people to continue being unethical and, furthermore, in my opinion only adding to the rising population of animals in shelters.
I am one of the ppl that speaks out against breeding mixes. Now I love Mix breeds, I have owned more mixes than I have Pure breds. But every dog I have ever had has come either from a pound, a shelter, or I have rescued it. I had a Golden/poodle mix before they were given a fancy name and sold for thousands of $, I owned a runt Aussie shepherd before they called it a mini aussie and again sold it for $. I am NOT against mix breeds I love them, but I am against the unethical breeders that produce mixes, give them a fancy name and sell them for a high price, they have no morals or ethics. When some comes here and says "I have a labradoodle" I will correct them and tell them they have a mutt, not because I dislike mixes, but because it is ppl like that that perpetuate the the over population of pets, by encouraging morons to breed mixes. It's comparative to loving the soldier hating the war.
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Flip195 i totally agree with you about mixing breeds i am not for doing it to make money my angel is 3 months old and her momma is full siberian huskey and her daddy is collie looks like lassie. I bought her out of a sell everything kinda mag called uncle henry's when i got to where she was she was living in a 3rd floor apartment had never been outside and her owners want 350 for her ilaughed and told them i would give them 200 for her or call humane society on them because the living conditions were sqwualler at best/ they said the preg was a oopps on their part they didn't know their bitch was in heat? i don't know how that is possible but ok. They also stated they didn't know she was preg until she was further along..I agree that mixing breeds to sell for $ is unethical..and well you just never know what you may end up with. thanks for the comments all have a good day
I've not heard anyone on here say they don't like mixed breed dogs. The problem that many of us have is the people that breed these mixes on purpose.
They are not breeding to improve the breed, they are breeding because there is a market out there, filled with people that will buy them. It's all about money and the greed of those breeders where I have a problem.
Angelsun......I can understand your want to get that pup out of those conditions, but in reality you only reinforced them in their stupidity and lack of responsibility by giving them a profit on the pup. Now it will not make them think twice about doing it again. I would have declined then called the Humane Society. Once the pup was removed from the home, you could have adopted him from them and then the people would not have made money off their ignorance.
Though I'm sure it was your hearts first instinct that you responded to by buying him. Glad he has a great home now.
People are like slinky's, not really good for much. But its still fun to push them down the stairs.
Your position on the subject/post is pretty standard for a new member...especially one that has recently gotten a mixed breed.
Your opinion will probably change with time the more information that you gather about the subject, or it won't... and you will become one of the bitter people unable to comprehend the message we are trying to get across, that jumps on every thread involving mixed breeds claiming we are picking on the dogs when we've already told you in another thread that you have a beautiful animal.
I let the beast in too soon, I don't know how to live without my hand on his throat; I fight him always and still. -Fiona Apple
i like tothink i will not be a bitter person i very much see your opinion and i welcome the education on the topic. Your right my view probably will change i wasn't looking to sound ignorant to the topic i was only looking for opinions...thanks all
this will show how many mixed breeds there truely are. it's sad really. they have all these fancy names for them but to me they all are all the same a "mutt". now dont get me wrong I love mixed breed dogs they give out the best type of love, unconditional. I have no problems with the mixed breeds I have a problem with people who breed them because they think that they can make loads of money off of them.
often times the dogs don't get sold out and they get stuck at a shelter or worse on the street.
no dog should live this way and so therefore I say that we need to get rid of BYB's and puppy mills. they are making the homeless dog count go threw the roof.
I have to admit that I wanted to breed my chihuahua and I didn't really know a whole lot about the breeding process and how much work truely went into it. I'm glad I didn't do it. because i would be contributing to the growing problem.
To all of you that are so against mix breeding of dogs and criticizes anyone who breeds so “unethically” as you put it. Let me state this first. I WOULD NOT MIX BREEDS FOR FEAR OF THE UNKNOW. With that said… let me give you a history lesson that I hope you soon will not forget. For hundreds and thousands of years dogs have been cross bred to come up with the breeds we now know today. For example, and my list is quite long.
This is to name just a few of our so called beloved pure breeds. If it wasn’t for dedicated Breeders we wouldn’t have the pure bred dogs we have come to love. So for anyone that believes that this is just a fad it’s not. It’s been going on since the beginning of time. And for those of you that criticize Breeders for being so unethical for trying to come up with a better dog. Shame on you. These cross breeds will one day be our new Pure Breed dogs.
Thanks for the history lesson, Sereneshihtzu. To each his own. People should be able to hear all sides. It certainly doesn't make anyone "bitter" as one person called it, to maintain a contrary opinion and give it just as often as those on the other side of the fence. Thanks for having the courage to post your list.
The breeds on your list were created hundreds (in the case of a few, thousands) of years ago, and with a specific purpose in mind.
The vast majority of mixed breeds that people breed today, including the 'poo dogs' like the cockapoo, puggles, mini mastiffs, teddy bear dog, etc were created for no other purpose than 'they are cute' and sell to gullible buyers for insane amounts of money to do nothing more than line their pockets. If they really were interested in creating a breed, they would do more than breed the same two breeds together over and over and over again, as has been done with the poodle cocker spaniel crosses since the 1960s, and the labrador/poodle cross since the 70s, and is now being done iwth the 'puggle' and a multitude of other mixed breed dogs.
When Louis Doberman created the doberman pinscher, he did careful record keeping and purposeful breeding over multiple canine generations, adding in the different breeds in later generations to refine the physical qualities and temperament he desired, keeping written record track of F1, f2 and all future generations until finally it 'bred true'. THat is what makes a purebred a purebred - it breeds true.
Mixed breed dog breeders almost without exception, breed one breed to another, and call it something cute. End of story. Then they breed the same two dogs and/or breeds again. And again. That is NOT creating a breed, that's repeatedly mixing two breeds. There's no careful record keeping, no rhyme or reason to their breeding. All they care about is the almighty dollar. Which is also why the vast majority of mixed breed dog breeders offer no health guarantee, and do no health testing whatsoever on the parent dogs. Because it would all cut into their profit.
There are many purebred dog breeders who also breed to line their pockets, but I can find an ethical and responsible purebred dog breeder far more easily than I can find an ethical and responsible mixed breed dog breeder.
One of those mixes, the cockapoo, has intentionally been bred, cocker to poodle over and over agian since the 1960s and is still not a breed. And personally I don't think it will EVER be a purebred recognized by any reputable dog registry in the world because the people breeding them really do not care about the effort required to truly make a purebred dog. Nor will the labradoodle. They've had 40-50 years (figure at least the same number of dog generations) to refine it into a breed, and are no closer today than they were when they first mixed the progenitor breeds.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
This was taken straight off the AKC website. This is just a fraction of purebred dogs that are still waiting for AKC to recognize them. Many of them have also been around for hundreds of years and some for just a short period of time. The Rat terrier for example has been around only since the early 1900’s and has been cross bred to as many dogs such as the Whippet, Italian Greyhound, Beagles, Smooth Fox Terrier, Toy Fox Terrier and other available Feist breeds. Just as of January 1, 2006 were they even looked at by the AKC. In a few years time each of the dogs listed below will be permanently added to the AKC registries as a pure bred dog.
Miscellaneous Class Breeds
The Miscellaneous Class is intended as an interim stage prior to a breed becoming eligible to compete in a variety group at AKC shows. Under our current policy, the stud book will continue to be maintained by the Foundation Stock Service until the AKC Board of Directors sets a date for full recognition. Before entry into the Miscellaneous Class, the Board will work with the national club to determine the variety group to which the breed will be assigned. After a limited time in the Miscellaneous Class a date would be set, at which time the breed would become eligible to compete in a variety group at all-breed dog shows.
The Foundation Stock Service® (FSS®) was created by the American Kennel Club to answer the needs of today's rare breed fanciers. The Foundation Stock Service is an optional record keeping service for all purebred breeds not currently registrable with the American Kennel Club.
American English Coonhound Appenzeller Sennenhunde Argentine Dogo Azawakh Belgian Laekenois Bergamasco Black and Tan Coonhound Bluetick Coonhound Bolognese Boykin Spaniel Bracco Italiano Cane Corso Catahoula Leopard Dog Caucasian Mountain Dog Central Asian Shepherd Dog Cesky Terrier Chinook Coton de Tulear Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Entlebucher Mountain Dog Estrela Mountain Dog Finnish Lapphund German Spitz Grand Basset Griffon Vendéen Icelandic Sheepdog Irish Red and White Setter Kai Ken Karelian Bear Dog Kishu Ken Kooikerhondje Lagotto Romagnolo Lancashire Heeler Leonberger Mudi Norwegian Lundehund Perro de Presa Canario Peruvian Inca Orchid Portuguese Podengo Portuguese Pointer Pumi Rafeiro do Alentejo Rat Terrier Russell Terrier Schapendoes Sloughi Small Munsterlander Pointer South African Boerboel Spanish Water Dog Stabyhoun Thai Ridgeback Tosa Treeing Tennessee Brindle Treeing Walker Coonhound Xoloitzcuintli
I do not believe that Breeders should make money on these cross breeds until they have come up with some kind of standard for the breed they are trying to create. Yes… it does anger me to see these dogs going for the same price or higher than the pure breed dogs. But at the same time I will not set on my thrown and judge something that I know nothing about. What I do know is that cross breeding has been going on for centuries and I don’t see it ever ending.