I do not have any tips or advice for you but I wish your family,and your dog the best.I hope she/he gets better.I know you want her to eat and want to give her a treat once she recovers.I just don't think having all that "people food" caqn be good for him/her.Rice,I know is good for a dog,try a little of that.Again I suggest that you not give your dog so much "people food".Talk to the vet maybe they will have some good food suggestions.
I received a call from Lilly's Dr. at about 3:30pm, and while although she responded better to the Torbutrol through IV, (she slept and was not shaking), she’s still was not eating. She decided to give Lilly another look at her stomach through an additional xray, and said further a mass is pressing against her pancreas, and liver area and that her stomach is feeling as though it is full, from the pressure, and this is the cause of her not eating. She mentioned that she could make it comfortable for her to eat, and giver her medicines to make her comfortable, but that it would be temporary and return. She said she could do a lot to keep her comfortable, but it would keep coming back. She doesn't feel it is Pancreatitis now, but that her pressure from the mass in that area of those organs, caused the discomfort certainly, and the possibility of the off numbers in blood work looking like Pancreatitis. They felt it, the lump/mass and said they did not feel it was cancerous, and because of her great blood work she feels positive of that. Lilly will stay there, overnight, and have surgery in the morning. They will remove the mass. I am so scared and miss her so much. She’s never had to go through surgery before, aside from being neutered. I am certainly not minimizing that and know to most of us, it was more than painful for those who had to go through it. For her sake and mine, I am going to try and be positive, so here is to Lilly being healthy, comfortable and eventually settled and happy again, and all of your pets the same, and here’s to people like you who care enough about animals to make a big difference in all our lives. Thanks so much again, ~Alexa
a mass in her abdomen would certainly explain much more of her symptoms than a bladder infection. poor lily ~hugs~
i would have the mass biopsied if i were you. cancer itself does not show in blood results. if an organ value is off, then you investigate further to find out the cause of that value being off. sometimes it is due to infection, normal disease processes, aging, or cancer. but most dogs can have perfect blood results and still have cancer. i learned that with my golden. he had cancer in his chest and while i knew something wasnt right with him, his blood work was perfect. so it led to us investigating further and finding out what was up. it would give you peace of mind to know without a doubt that it was not cancer.
let us know asap how she is doing =)
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Lilly's Dr. Called at 9:30. I was a little worried all through last night because Lilly (it was found last year) has a heart murmur and I kind of panicked about surgery. The surgery idea yesterday came sudden to me, so it never registered until the middle of the night. When the Dr. called me before surgery, I told her (after she told me Lilly was doing comfortably, with the medicines, and the pain killer, and fluids), that I was so worried about the murmur and anesthesia. She said she had a good success with dogs and cats, that had clinical signs that were stable, and because Lill falls into that ~ she is a healthy dog with no other poroblems, that she felt safe to give her the surgery. Also, that it is a modern anesthesia, and she felt with all she is going through, and if it were her dog she would do this. I said ok, and as unconfident as I felt, I thought Lilly without going through this would be in so much discomfort, and not have her life, that for Lilly and her sake, it was worth to try for her. Lilly actually ate for her a little late afternoon yesterday. They wanted to giver her some nutrients, and Lilly ate (a special wet food that is prescribed). She wanted to let me know, just in case, that if they see when the are in surgery that this mass spread, especially to her liver/and or other organs, that I need to decide what we’d want to do further, she wanted us to be prepared, if it went to that. She said she wanted us to know, that if it looked bad, they would not wake her up, if we decided that. I said that I could not bear for her to be in any more pain, and for her to live just a little while longer, or even if she did live longer, what kind of pain she could be in, and not eating, it would not be fair for her. I asked her what she would do, and she said she too would go ahead with surgery, and that if it looked as though it spread, she felt the same. She said she felt good about the surgery though and if it couldn’t help Lilly live longer, than she wouldn’t even have us do it. That it was ‘just in case’ about there being a possibility of the mass spreading. I said that I wanted her to have this surgery, and that going by what she said, I couldn’t have her be in this pain for months, or who knows how long. Also, just to know what is going on inside her body. She said she would be going into surgery late morning, and felt confident it will be good. The murmur was scary enough, I kept thinking, but her lum spreading I never considered. She phoned me just an hour ago and she said Lilly is doing beautifully. The lump, I think she said it was a lipoma but I was so nervous I can not remember, was removed. It was fine and her liver looked great. She said that it was not the lump after all, that it was, in fact the Pancreas. She said her Pancreas was inflammed and she deffinetly has Pancreatitis. They are keeping her until tomorrow, because they want her to rest and be comfortable. She said Lilly will do well,and it will take long for her to recover, but with proper rest and nutrition, and of course, care she will be fine. She wants to talk to me about heart medicine, and that she would like Lilly to eventually see a Heart specialist. She said sh'd speak with me tomorrow, about everything. I have so many questions. I pick her up tomorrow, and will be so thrilled to see her. I am thankful for your listening and your thoughts and good wishes for her, and your time of course. I will let you know how her recovery goes, and the information about her heart and medicine. Thanks you so very much, all of you. Our Best Wishes to You All, ~Alexa
***Edited By: alexac on 3/27/2007 4:25:34 PM*** Reason: Typo
I am so happy Alexa! Most of us have had pets go under anesthesia in their later years. It is so scary! I hope Lily is feeling better really soon. Maybe you could post some pictures of her? That would be great!
Thanks so much everyone. It means a lot to have all your best wishes. And we are so fortunate to have crossed paths with you. Lilly came home, yesterday afternoon. When I saw her, it was as though we were back to what she was before. She was happy and not panting. Not bloated, and no shaking. They had gotten her to eat a little of rice cooked with chicken broth, and she actually had a small walk outside. She is on a strict bland diet, because of the Pancreatitis. Since home, she has not eaten much yet. Spoonfuls, at most. Then, walks away. My greatest challenge I hope, will be this. She really will not eat the chicken broth cooked with rice, as I thought she would. I explained that for my family I have always made our rice with Uncle Ben’s Converted Long Grain, cooked in low sodium College Inn (or Swanson’s or generic). The low sodium chicken broth, they said, was perfect for her, and to keep cooking it the same way. She is on a strict bland diet for 10-15 days, ~ not fat no protein. I am thrilled with the little bit she does eat, but with Lilly, as most, she always looked for the yummy stuff before she ate what she did not crave. She was always finicky but liked everything, so I hope it gets better. I think little by little, she will fess up and eat the bland diet, because overall, she is wanting to eat. She gets up, goes to the kitchen, and looks at what is available. Sometimes, she eats a tiny bit, and then walks away. But most, she looks, and then walks away, without eating. She is drinking and that is wonderful. She loves to walk outside, and today she walked about 8 houses, then back. She is really acting like her normal self, thankfully, when it comes to walking, greeting people, or animals (less the bark, which is very odd for her because she would bark to the point of, ‘I can’t stop at hello’!) Not herself, when it comes to sleeping, because of the painkiller. She has not had a bowel movement either. (I wonder if it is because what we spoke of how the Torbutrol was like codeine and I’ve heard that codeine can make one constipated. Does anyone know, about Torbutrol?) She was sent home with an appetite stimulant. So, she is going to finish her Baytril for the UTI 1x per day, take ½ an appetite stimulant 1x per day, ½ to 1 pill, 2x per day of the painkiller, Torbutrol. (I had given her one last evening at bed time, and one this am. I do think it is too much for her now that she is not in as much pain as last week. Because it has really been making her sleep an extra lot now that her pain is gone, whereas on Saturday, through Sunday, it did not even make her sleep at all during both days, and only slept the best Saturday evening. Sunday hardly at all during the day ~ she was just kind of dazed, I really feel, because she was in so much pain. It doesn’t give the same effect (the pain killers) as one who’s in mild pain. I will be making it ½ in the am, then 1/2 in the pm and see if that is better for her.) She is also now on Enalapril. She will take 1 ½ pills, 2x per day. This is to keep her heart healthy and so she doesn’t get a blockage. Keeps blood pressure down too. I found out that after they removed her lypoma, they also saw that her gallbladder was enlarged, so they removed all the gunk out of it. There were no stones, so that was good news. I guess from what I understood, a typically healthy animal's (us too!) gallbladder empties on its own. Then, if trouble along the way might happen, they may not empty naturally on their own, and/or they may have stones. I did not ask if it is common to remove a dog’s gallbladder, but from what I gathered, because of all Lilly was going through, seeing it full during the surgery, they thought ‘let’s get that cleaned out a bit’. Not sure why they did not remove. I know for people's bodies, they can be removed, but maybe dogs need them? Does anyone know if they do?
We thank you so much. I have told so many people about this wonderful site of ‘yours/everyones’ , and will keep spreading your wonderfulness. It would have been so hard, to have to go through this with Lilly, not having had you all there to hope for us.
I will let you know her progress. Her stitches come out on the 9th of April and then, there are a few more days to her bland diet. When she isn’t so restricted, I will no longer be giving her some fat from the steak, and no more giving her anything fried, ever. I have learned that even the few scraps we give our dogs, that are fatty, could lead to Pancreas inflammation, and this is not good. It is deadly. Coming from a good place, is wonderful, and I can tell you first hand I never thought what I gave her could possibly kill her. If I could tell anyone anything, please, never give your loved one (all and every, from furry to furless!), too much fat. Keep the fat tiny amount (tiniest) and give them the nutrition they require. And this should be researched, and carefully monitored. Because as much as he/she loves what you give, it is not good for them in the long run. So, after 10-15 days, I am going to give her food that is great for her. Low fat, delicious food and hope that the rest of her years are comfortable. I will let you know her progress. Thank you, again, so much for everything you have given. **Scout1, how is your Salty and your Mom’s dog? I hope they too are doing wonderfully. Much best wishes to all of you and yours. ~Alexa
so glad to hear that lily is doing so wonderfully. that is really great news =) ive never heard a complaint of constipation with the use of torb, but i do know that some dogs will not have a bowel movement for 24 - 48 hours after a surgery. sometimes it is just to painful for them to go.
thanks for asking about salty and kohl. salty didnt do so well on the baytril it caused her extreme stomach upset and she wouldnt eat and was vomiting on it so we switched her meds and she is doing fine now.
kohl is doing well also. he is such a health mess, as some german shepherds can be as they get older. but he is doing well on all his meds, and he still has a puppy attitude about everything ( he's 11 yrs old) so as long as his attitude continues to be like it is, mom does eveyrhting she can for him.
take care and give lily some well deserved hugs !
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.