Okay you wonderful raw food gurus. I am curious about this whole raw thing. I'm wondering what y'all think about the frozen raw Nature's Variety? In your opinion, is it as good as raw? What about the dry Nature's Variety? Would it be better than feeding regular kibble?
I just need help....I'm considering switching to some type of raw diet but am not sure if I have the time and storage space for the "real" raw. Right now old Spencer (7 year old English Setter) is on Innova.
I think owner-provided raw is better, but if you're going to do the BARF thing (especially if you intend on grinding everything up), I'd be looking at Nature's Variety, too. Pretty expensive, though, compared to what I pay for raw, but I feed prey-model raw.
Well I jumped to raw couldn't handle the pet food scares along with Lu's allergies.
It's actually worked out really well and makes me eat better to =) We feed raw lamb, chicken, eggs, yogart (no sugar plain). I have read a lot about it and sometimes it seems complicated. I do also ask a lot of questions to those who feed raw just so I can beg some insight off of them... I am a PM monster when it comes to asking "raw" questions lol.
Good luck and at first it may seem wierd but it actually becomes pretty refreshing knowing that they are eating good foods =)
I think its great - Natures Variety - but expensive. I could barely afford to feed 2 dogs on it. I prefer Bravo, one because its cheaper and two they only put meat and veggies in. I add my own eggs and such for supplements.
http://www.ashleyspets.com "A dog is not almost human, and I know of no greater insult to the canine race than to describe it as such.
I just find feeding raw so simple. This morning they had there green ums(for lawn browning) and an egg and shared my banana(we ate two this morning). At noon they had carrots and an apple with some raw fish. When I got home from work I opened up two frozen chickens and they will lick and eat on them off and on for hours. If they have any left over they will eat on it tomorrow.
I still leave the Canidae out but they don't eat on that much anymore since I added more raw.
I feed Nature's Variety raw just because I barely have time to shop at the grocery store for myself..let alone figure out what all to buy for my pets, so it's honestly just easier for me. And I'd be worried I wasn't giving her everything she needed if I tried to do it myself...this way I know she's getting a balanced diet with all the vitamins and minerals she needs. I think if you have the time and ability to prey-model feed then that's awesome. Nature's Variety has been really great though
Wandering...I hope that last remark wasn't directed at me. I think long and hard and research as much as I can before making a decision. I was picking up dog food today and started talking to the feed store manager who feed Nature's Variety. I know that many (including you) know a lot about it so I was curious about it. I guess if it were just me and DH in the house I wouldn't be so concerned but I have a 2 kids 2 & 4.
I've trained Magnum to eat on a mat in the kitchen (just a piece of vinyl tablecloth, really), which gets cleaned every day. I do not, however, have young children in the house, and I only have one dog. Veggies/fruits are given as training/reward treats only (not as a diet staple), so they're not a worry/don't make a mess at mealtime.
Actually, I think my almost-15-year-old son is way messier than Magnum, LOL!
The first time I fed Lacy the Nature's variety medallions, I just set two whole ones in the bowl. of course she tried to carry it off to eat it. So now I always tear the medallions into small pieces and I haven't had a problem with her taking it out of her bowl.
You're right Wandering I do but I will never be one of those people who misses it when a comment is meant for me! lol I must say sometimes it's easier to get a valued opinion then do a ton of research just to find out the valued opinion was right!
I started feeding my dogs raw Friday night. They have been eating nothing but chicken so far so that they get used to the raw meat first. I heard that chicken is the best to start out with and then feed that for about 2-3 weeks...Then add some organ meats and then try a different protein source slowly. I am looking into Nature's Variety raw since I think it's easier to feed that in the mornings because I take my dogs to work with me. Plus, I am worried when it comes to feeding the chicken bones, so I feed boneless chicken, and since the medallions have the bone it them, they still get their bones for calcium. It helps keep the poops hard so they don't get diarrhea.
Good luck in whatever you decide. Its really hard to know what to do. Everyone wants to do the best for our dogs and espically with this food recall scare and I still don't know whats best. Talked to my vet yesterday and she said they just finished a seminar and she told me absolutely no raw. They can get contimated food like that too. So, what do you do????? Just have to go by what you think is best. I know they don't always know either.
:. eating raw may lead ot saminella (sp) and ecoli with dogs as it does for humans? and cooking is bad b/c it loses nutrients? oh wait...was the vets seminar sponsered by a pet food manufacturer? I ask this because as a health professional we learn to be skeptical of the people presenting the seminar - where is the money coming from and 98% of the time it is the drug manufacturer who will profit from the psuedo education.
Got a question for you raw feeders. When you give them say a quarter piece of a raw chicken, and they gnaw on it for hours or even a day or two, do they keep it in their bowl or drag it all over the house and make a mess everywhere with raw chicken slime? Or do you confine them in an area? Or put it outside? I just don't understand this whole raw thing at all.......I just can't see me giving 5lb. Toby a piece of raw chicken (bone and everything) to drag around and chomp on all day long, dragging raw chicken juice everywhere. Please inform me some...thanks. =0)
Oh I just read all the posts and see what some of you do about it.
When I give Chloe' chicken, she is 11 lbs, I give it to her in the kitchen and gate off the door with a baby gate. She usually takes it to the rug, that has a towel over it and eats the wings or legs there. I personally give her just the amount that I know she will eat at one feeding. I think the bigger dogs are the one's that have the larger pieces.
I also feed the Nature's Variety medallions and Honest Kitchen's freeze dried chicken mixed together, for her evening meal. That way when I travel, I can take along the freeze dried food along and not have any problems with changing food.
As far as the bacteria in the raw food, the dogs have a different digestive tract than we do, so the chance of them getting sick from raw meat is slim.
It is hard to figure out what is "right". You'll get as many different opinions as there are choices.