I was online looking for some cute pics of pitbulls when i saw this story.
A 10-year-old boy was in critical condition Sunday after three pit bulls escaped from a home and went on a rampage, attacking six people before police shot and killed the dogs, authorities said. [...]
Neighbors said the attacks started late Saturday afternoon when children going door-to-door for a fund-raiser arrived at the home of Scott Sword, 41, who owned the dogs.
"The screams were horrible," she said. The dogs were "relentless, like they were possessed."
The pit bulls attacked the two children, and when the dogs' owner tried to stop them, the dogs turned on him and bit off his thumb, Nygren said. [emphasis mine]
Knowing just how dangerous these animals are, why do so many people insist on owning them? It just seems foolish to me, as well as reckless. Especially to own three of these snarling monsters.
I used to work with a gal not long ago who owned five or six of these dogs. She kept them in her backyard, and they were forever trying to jump the fence or dig under it. I used to tease her about it, telling her that one day she was going to come home and find little pieces of the mailman on her front porch.
But it's really not funny at all. These dogs are ruthless killers, by their very nature. I know that people who are fond of this particular breed of dog will dispute that notion, but there is plenty of evidence available in the news media that shows the dangers of owning these animals.
We, as human beings, have managed to kill off harmless creatures like the dodo, and we have brought benevolent species like the manatee to the brink of extinction. Yet we seem intent upon ensuring the continued existence of the malicious pit bull. Why?
I say: kill 'em all. The extinction of the smallpox virus from the earth was not viewed as a negative thing; the intentional genocide of the pit bull should likewise be seen as a beneficial goal.
It's not right i mean not all pits r like this it all depends on how u raise them but so many people think pits r so evil and dangerous but some r really quite loveable
While I agree that this was a terrible situation, it was one that once again could have been avoided. Pitt Bulls are not the mean killer’s media & sometimes society alike play them out to be, but they are an easy target; as not many people are willing to fight FOR these dogs.
Yes, I agree this breed needs firm training, socialization, TIME, supervision, & patience; but then again I find this is the case with ANY breed. I wouldn’t let my parent’s poodles, let alone my bully; get away with some of the things irresponsible owners will consistently allow their dogs to do. When you let a dog run loose in your neighborhood, chain it to a box and leave it for life, and most importantly ignore behavioral warning signs; in my opinion you don’t care about the dog and are begging for legal troubles! What gets me is that every time the blame gets pushed to the "monster" pit bull, instead of the owners, whose excuses include but of course are not limited to: the lack of knowledge of the dogs actual where abouts, motivation of the owner to get the dog the behavioral help it needed (knowing full well the dog had behavioral issues even being quoted as saying “well I knew the dog had this problem”), dog, people, children, & situational socialization, and the repeat apparent lack of interest from the community (it’s ok as a responsible neighbor to tattle tail, if you feel safety of children or your property is being jeopardized! You can even do it anonymously, be safe not sorry); all the same excuses which are not looked into thoroughly. All lame excuses & evidences that are simply pushed aside, as it was of course all the dog’s fault, but then again I suppose that conclusion is much faster to print then actually digging into the bottom of the excuses. Plus the facts wouldn’t catch the interests of the general public as they seem to enjoy seeing "real monsters" not the plain Jane "irresponsible owner".
Respectfully, I am sorry if you or someone you know has had a bad experience with one, but after having the compassion to own mine along with socializing with many in rescue, I can honestly say this is a breed worth fighting FOR.
As much as the media makes it seem that "pitbulls" are all vicious crazy animals, that is simply not the case. Many may recall the days of the "evil doberman" and the "maneating Rottweiler".... whatever big breed is the trend, that is what the media will focus on. A Pomeranian killed an infant... did that make the news? No. APBT's are very low on the statistical dog bite list... many other breeds are of a much higher risk to humans as far as overall bites and unpredictability..... I believe at one time, Cocker Spaniels and German Shepards were at the top of the list. There are APBT's on Search and Rescue Crews, rescuing people... why aren't they on the news? What about the ones that are servie dogs to the handicapped as well as the many used as therapy dogs? The breed itself is not "evil" or "vicious". It is poor breeding and irresponsible owneship of the dogs who make it in the paper, but I GUARANTEE there are many more APBT's doing good for manking over the ones who have done bad. Let's not forget the public's poor perception of what a "pit" really is..... most people cannot tell the difference between any of the bull and molosser breeds and call them all "pits". I'm sure more than a few of the media's reported "pit attacks" weren't even done by an actual APBT!
The true APBT should have zero man aggression, as they were bred to hunt and fight other dogs. People had to be able to break their dogs off of these other animals without getting bit by their own dogs.... any pit that showed any sign of aggression was put to sleep and eliminated from the genepool. Nowadays, many people are breeding pits indiscriminately, and there is a larger number of poorly bred/untested/nervy unbreedworthy dogs being bred. Couple that with these folks sell to anybody with a dollar, and boom... dominant breed ends up in wrong home.
The cases of APBT terrier bites can pretty much all be traced back to not only poor breeding, but to irresponsible ownership. With only the best of the best dogs being bred by breeders who screen buyers and back up their dogs 100%, the cases of poor bred dogs and irresponsible owners would nearly disapear.
So again... this topic is always brought up and everyone runs through the same song and dance. With laws like bill 1634 in CA, others will soon follow, and none of us will be able to own any pet dog.... people need to educate themselves before concluding to condemn or hate an entire breed... your breed may be next on the chopping block. Realize the media blows things out of proportion, realize that there are millions of most breed of dogs and the actions of a few 100 or even thousand, is very small in comparison to the breed as a whole.... educate... educate.. educate!!
this is what i have always understood to be true also. mainly from reading what breeders of the breed have stated on here and other forums.
for my own clarification i would like to ask you a question. several days ago s omeone who owns pits had mentioned 2 instances where her dogs have acted in a somewhat protective/aggressive manner. once was towards a friend who had walked into her home unannounced and the pit growled and prevented her friend from entering the home further. the other instance, the girl had been sleeping in bed with one of her dogs and her BF walked into the room. no lights were on and the dog started growling, again i believe in a protective nature. once the BF spoke, the dog immediately recognized the BF and all was fine.
given the fact that this breed is supposed to show zero aggression towards other humans, is it reasonable to expect that some may show protectiveness of their owners, just like any breed may when feeling that their owners safety might be compromised ? or does it show a possibly unstable temperament in this particular breed, for a dog of the breed to act in this manner ?
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
I saw a pit bull at the park the other day, i asked the owner if I could pet him and she said yes, the dog started jumping up at me and licking my face :) That dog was so friendly, her name was abby. I think that was about the first time I had ever been around a pitbull, and luckily I had a great experience, except the whole slobbery part LOL
Hey Scout. Outright human aggression and the cases you mentioned are really two separate things. When I think of human aggression, I picture a dog who is not at all fearful of engaging a man and is in general, a very dominant creature...always testing.
Bite cases can be broken down into multiple categories. I'm not an all out expert, but here are some different types of scenarios that lead to bites. I should mention that these can apply to any dog, not just bullies.
One category would be fear..... a dog is insecure and fearful of the situation or person.... once threatened, they feel they have to bite.... often times the bite isn't necessaraly directed at the person who recieves it... it may be displaced. This category seems very common these days.... so many people are not properly testing the nerves of their breeding animals... you tie that in with lack of socialization, and boom.... disaster... a fearbiter.
Another category would be a prey driven bite.... you take a dog that is a highly prey driven creature and add an animal or even a small child who appears as prey... left unsupervised and uncontrolled and ... you guessed it, a bite.
Other bites would be out of pain.... animals undiagnosed with something who feel pain but do not outwardly show it. You accidentally bump the animal on a sore spot and they bite out of pain. Bullbreeds have a very high pain tolerance, and can mask pain very well.
Then there are protective bites.... It takes a very confident and controlled animal to accomplish this, and often times only trained animals are the true protectors. Often times these dogs aren't "bluffers" (see below) and handle business.
I will finish off with stating many people misconstrue "protectiveness" with fear. Almost all dogs will bark at a knock at the door or act like the cases you mentioned above. These dogs are probably not being protective, but are afraid. The growl and bark and "show" or so to speak, is the animals way of bluffing and warning the "scary" thing to leave. These dogs may bite out of fear if cornered, but if the intruder actually attempted to engage the dog, 9 times out of 10, the dogs would run off.
Now, to address the cases you mentioned. I would say it likely in both cases, the dogs were bluffing.. more of a fearful response, than a protective one. The fact that both dogs recovered quickly is good, as dogs that don't are the ones to watch out for. This is not an issue of man aggression at all....
I also have to say that human aggression, animal aggression and fear aggression are completely separate things. Just because a dog is animal aggressive, it does not mean it will eat your family and friends..... I have many friends who hunt with thier dogs, and after the hunt the dogs are curled up with the kids.
Lastly, please realize that almost all bite cases showed warning signs well before they took place. Dogs do not just "up and attack". They have a number of signals before that happens.... a high rigid tail, a stare, a frozen stance, hackles raised.. fearful dogs are always fearful... if your dog is a tail tucker, shiverer generally afraid dog, you must be very careful with them. If you know a thing or two about dog behavior, you can spot a problem well before it hits the fan.
I hope I made some sense and clarified a few things for you and anyone else. If you would like me to elaborate a bit more, I would be more than happy to.
Why would someone go out and PURPOSELY kill Pit Bulls just because they are, in our minds, mean. Not ever Pit Bull in the world is mean. Now i do own one and like the artical said, owners will deny this but i will admit there are plenty of stories out there where Pit Bulls are mean and do need to be put down and killed. But that is not the dogs fault. It is their owners. If the dogs are haveing to be killed for the owners mistake i think we should kill them to....or at least put them in jail for life. If you have a Pit Bull and you get it out there at a young enough age and socialize them, they come out to be the best dogs i think you will ever find. They are loyal, protective, great with kids, at least mine is, and just an over all wonderful pet. All these stories like these just come into our homes and make us fear these dogs. The public is terrified everytime they see one walking down the road because of all these stories they have heard and exspecially the death stories they have heard. Mabey if the papers and news but out more stories about how Pit Bulls mabey saved somebody or were being corageous, and less about all the ones of tem killing or injuring people, more people would see the true kind, gentle nature of these dogs. And really i have heard mabey two stories i can think of where a Pit Bull has killed someone. Most of them get away with minor scars. In my mind killing these animals is a good idea if they hurt soeone and cant be fixed, but going out for no reaso and shooting them is just a waste of time. People will still breed these wonderful animals.
"Dogs arent our best friends...were their best friends...."
wow i really have to agree with rebel. thats crazy. i got it on the second try, but thats so true. so many people are mistaking look alike dogs for the real thing. which simply proves that not just pit bulls are mean dogs. you know there are people getting bit by dogs every day and no one ever makes it a big deal unless its by a pitt or a rott. why is that? a dog is a dog. the breed doesnt consist of anything to do with the dogs personality.
Utopia kennel and I both posted the "pit bull game" a while back to try to get the same reaction. NOT all pits are agressive or mean. The media ONLY displays the pits that attack someone. NEVER do you hear about the good they do as someone posted. It is ridiculous and tiresome. I have 6 pit bulls and a rottie, they are all kenneled within a 7X13 chain kennel during the day and night. when we get home from work, we let them out to play, exercise, and run as well as "visit" with us. I have 2 of them in crates in the house at all times. They also get to go out and run like little lunaritcs! It is in how they are raised. I have 2 children and 3 cats...none of my dogs have shown any agression towards them. ANyways, I am tired of the same ol' Sh*t.
Knowing just how dangerous these animals are, why do so many people insist on owning them? It just seems foolish to me, as well as reckless. Especially to own three of these snarling monsters. --------------------------------------------------------- Snarling Monsters! Yea, right.
It is not pitbulls that are mean and vicious....it is the owner behind the pit that has made them mean. It is all in how you train and raise your dog from a puppy. I adopted a pit mix from the pound and took him everywhere with me and socialized him daily, he is now a very sweet and loving dog that thrives on bringing us joy and happiness. I am also "owned" by 4 full grown dobermans who are just lazy couch potatos. I have changed so many oppinoins on "vicious breeds". Everyone who has met my dogs, have realized that not all dogs are bad..... my thought for the day: "PUNISH THE DEED, NOT THE BREED"
My responce will be short and sweet as over the years I have noticed that APBT haters are hard headed and think that all APBT's are mean and killers. I mean jeezze their brain outgrows their skull, then they attack with their locking jaws.