First i didnt say i was going to i said i could, Big diffrence. If I did it sure wouldnt be false. Charges like that can mess up a persons life, no way would i do that unless I felt the need and it happend. I have not felt the need because I just think hes a wad and a little creepy but I dont think he would do anything.
We are nice people, we try to get along with everyone. But when someone finds out there is a problem and starts talking down to you as soon as you say hello this is blah blah blah and then gets snappy and snooty about the whole thing your gonna get mad and yelling will happen.

Exactly he has to put it back the way things were and befor we had matching lights, Now we have one light and a hole in the wall. We cant find the same light we are still looking for it. honestly Id love to get some fab lights that cost an arm and a leg just because she is paying but I liked what i had and If I can find one i will. Im not around to milk people, though sometimes id love to, and I expect the same respect I give others.

Wile we were gone someone picked up pur truck, messed up our driveway and the guys driveway across the street. He does not know it was someone picking up our truck I didnt even kow for sure what happend untill after he had asked us about it. now i know what happend and as soon as we can figure out how to clean up ours we will go over to his place and clean his too. We didnt mess it up but the guy who bought our truck did so we will take care of it even if it means paying someone to do both driveways. And next time I see the guy Im going to tell him what happend (he works all day and goes to KS a lot hes kinda hard to catch).

Like I said i handle everyone diffrently, If he had told me what happend Oh well I probly would have told him to pay for it and even forgot about it later. If he didnt try to make me feel bad by trying to make him self cry i wouldnt have gotten so mad. If his mom had talked to us with respect she probly wouldnt have been yelled at. I wanted to handle it and get it over with that night. As long as it keeps drawing on more crap is going to happen.

As for cops siding with her, I dont know about that one. I can be a total potty mouth at times and Im not always fond of cops, but Im starting to like the ones around here. Expecaly sence a lot of them live close to us. I know them I know there dogs, I know some of there kids. there is one I had a problem with to start but hes an ok guy. I dont think they would take my side just because I know them but i dont think they would see me as a potty mouth even mean because they do know me. I grew up around cops, I know how to be good in court, with POs, and cops. its not like im a total nut case that goes off on everyone i come across or anything.
Oh well im off to keep looking for a dumb light, Im going to try Ebay now. Ill tell you all what happens.
Im guessing that Ill find the light or 2 new lights (witch she did agree to pay for both if needed towards the end of our convo once I got her to stop talking down to me) and she will pay no problem. She expects it to be around $200 so anything less then that she should be happy about. I also need to let her know we are still looking.

I dont think that this kid or his mom would have to pay for brand new lights, like anther poster said. Also to get 2 new lights that wouldnt fly at all-
probably the mom just agreed to paying for the light to get you off the phone. I cant see anyone that knows their rights would agree to pay for them. I even know that i wouldnt be liable for 2 brand new lights. You would need to replace it with the same light. if your house is brand new like you said you just bought it im sure you can find that same light at any of the home supply stores in your area-
To me the that price just sounds very steap. Lights arent that exspensive, and we have very nice ones on our home.
and you cant call some one like that and exspect them to treat you with respect when you come off like a crazy person demanding this and that, you cant do that. You would get farther with honey then vinager i think the saying goes-

Ummm, wow.
Eyes crossed now, brain is on overload trying to read through all that and make sence of it.

I will say, the boy should pay for it, but if you called my house the number of times you did and with the language you typed here. You would be getting nothing from me.
Baffled me that you went on and on about how you talked to them, sounding all tough and when mom gets on the phone, you tos phone to hubby cause you dont talk to 'moms' that part cracked me up!

How about a pic of the hole on your house?

What ? You dont talk to moms ? How many moms do you think are on this forum alone ? I think its because you know that the moms will tell you what time it is.... Moms will also be the one to call 911 to tell them where to come get your busted up butt for talking all that smack ! You would be wise after all that trash talkin, to zip your lip and go chill somewhere and thank your lucky stars that you can bend over without having to remove any high heels or boots from your rear end !

Dusty " thank your lucky stars that you can bend over without having to remove any high heels or boots from your rear end"

ROFL ;o)

lol dusty!
Always finding an eloquent way to tell it like it is...lmao

Your posts are virtually unreadable. And since you stated you write like you talk, you must be really hard to listen to, also. Good luck in small claims court, a Judge is not going to put up with that foul mouth and abrasive attitude.

Of course both lights might have to be replaced! They're supposed to match, and if a true match can't be found, then Miss Missouri is on the hook for two new lights.

If the builder is still around, that might be a way to find a match. Otherwise, it probably won't happen since builders usually don't buy lights where consumers buy them.

Monkey, please don't just laugh it off if you hear that a gang of punks is planning to assault you. You think you know these kids, but they might be more out of control than you think they are. If it takes a restraining order, you might have to get one.

***Edited By: JoanEK on 6/22/2007 2:52:20 PM***
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Obviously Joan you have no clue about legal responsibility. First of all someone over 18 years old is a legal adult so their mother is no longer responsible for them or the damage they cause. Secondly, a person is only responsible for the damage they cause which in this case is one light not two.

Wow, after a virtually unreadable post in the beginning she goes on the deliver more unreadable, childish tantics.

I think it was really uncalled for and you could be looking at a little lawsuit of your own. That would definitly be considered harrassment; and I would not have tolerated some mad woman calling my house like that.

Good luck on getting the new light or lights whatever you are trying to get from these people. I would definitly not give you what you wanted out of this, I would slap you with a harrassment suit.

Not everyone over 18 is considered a legal adult. From the first post in this thread, it sounds like the guy who broke the light has some developmental delays. Legally, this changes things. Even if he can legally drive, even if he has a job. In some cases, if the young man's parents don't take responsibility for his actions, he becomes a ward of the state. Most parents in that situation would come across with the money to make good on the damage their son caused, which was after all the reason for the unpleasantness that followed.

I have a 30-year-old nephew, who now has some brain damage after a severe street mugging. His father (my brother) is now his guardian and is legally responsible for my nephew's actions. My nephew can drive and work, but he can't live on his own. His impulse control and judgment, which were not so great even before he was hurt, are now very shaky. If he were on his own he'd be doing damage too. After a time or two of that, the state would step in and put him in some kind of custodial care.

For sure, it's very sad when somebody has a disability that keeps them from acting their age. But they need to be looked after so they don't get into trouble, and their guardians have to make good on any damage they do. And if one of two matching lights gets broken and an exact match can't be found, both lights need to be replaced. Because that's what it takes to get the house back in the shape it was in before the damage was done, unless an exact match is found. Sounds like the guy's mother has agreed to that, which is exactly what she needed to do. It's what I'd do if one of my kids had broken a neighbor's light. I'd pay -- then my kid would have to pay me back, however long it took.

***Edited By: JoanEK on 6/22/2007 6:46:27 PM***
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Since when is the 21 year old man disabled? Being an idiot is not a disability. Oh well, maybe I missed it because I was not able to read all that jibberish.

And Joan, you're wrong...let's just leave it at that.

"And Joan, you're wrong...let's just leave it at that."
--HeatherFeather

Wow, guess ya really got me there! Though if you're not sure how to spell "gibberish" you should probably look it up before using the word to describe someone else's writing.

The guy has a mental disorder, referred to in two different ways in the original post. If you have any kind of attention span, you can get through it. If you don't, you can search it by keyword. I suggest using "mental disorder."

***Edited By: JoanEK on 6/22/2007 9:06:53 PM***
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"well he has a mental dissorder, its not that bad I know the guy he used to come voer all the time."

"now this guy has everyone thinking he has a very bad mental problem, to the point his brain is child like. I dont belive it for one second, If he was as much as a child as everyone thinks he is he wouldnt be driving, he wouldnt be able to work (not walmart greeter or anything like that), and he sure wouldnt talk to girls the way he does. the only problems I see are he talks kinda strange and he has no respect for girls."




But it does not sound like Monkey believes he has a mental disorder, and she has spent more time with him than we have...

Monkey sounds like she believes that having a drivers license and a job means he's all right mentally. And that being sexually aware means he's putting everyone on. She states that everyone there is convinced he has a serious problem, which to me sounds like there's a reason everyone thinks so. Her description obviously strikes a chord with me because of my own nephew. So sure, maybe I'm wrong. But whatever the truth is about this man who still depends on his mom for his ability to live in a house, someone who lives in that house is responsible for the damage he caused to her house. This would be the case whether or not he provoked her into using bad language.

***Edited By: JoanEK on 6/22/2007 9:34:56 PM***
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okay so joan reads into it that the boy is mentally disabled and his mother is the guardian. If she isn't the guadian then the court needs to take over because he broke a light. No - all the ranting in the writings does not tell me the mother is responsible for her son''s actions - but that she is a good woman who does try to make things right. She was just taken off guard by a foul phone call(s).
I would have let it go right off. It was at no time a personal attack on the home owners. it was an accident - and maybe by a disabled man. Now it may have escalated into something dangerous.

Hello, Im new to this forum and i cant believe this post.
WOW- I dont think that the mother is liable at all to pay for her what her adult son did. Im sure she just agreed while being harrassed on the phone by your husband. I would of done the same thing.
300 for light fixtures is way inflated.

It doesn't matter whether or not we think this adult son has a mental disability. He either was or wasn't tagged "special needs" when he was in school. He either is or isn't getting disability payments for a mental deficit, and his mom either is or isn't his legal guardian. Those are the things that matter, not what he sounds like to us or seems like to Monkeyeatbutt37. There are so many ways to carry mental disabilities, and they don't all show. And when they do show, sometimes it's just a way of seeming a little "off" like this guy does. Parents often have to bail their adult kids out on issues of damage. Not just to get someone off the phone, but because it's the right thing to do. It's an issue of family honor, and a way of protecting your standing with your neighbors. Usually it's better when neighbors can work these things out privately than to have to bring in the cops.

It sounds like Monkey is very young to have homeowner status in a neighborhood where the other adults are a lot older than she is. It can be hard to learn to carry yourself like a peer in a group of people who are closer to your own parents' age, and this experience sounds like part of that learning curve. When you're learning to stand your ground with people who make you feel like a brat, you won't always get it right. I'll bet next time goes smoother.

Well said Joan.