I just had one of my male Dobies altered. He is 1 1/2 years old. He is a gentle giant, who only got into the end of a fight over a female in receptive heat. I breed Dobermans and have had a terrible time seperating my males during heats - so I am giving up breeding (after many wonderful years and puppies placed). I have one pregnant female - due in July, who will be spayed in September. One female that is spayed and one that will be in July. I also have one other neutered male, as well as my unaltered stud. My vet - as well as others - begged me not to alter my stud male. But Otto has been neutered for almost 3 weeks and still they growl at each other (Murphy my stud and Otto). I believe I should have my stud dog altered immediately, so both dogs hormones are settled before the long cold winter. I have heard that I have a 60 % chance of them not fighting again. Neither have ever been agressive. Both have gentle stable temperments and only fought once over a girl in heat. They (are father and son) lived peacefully together for the last year and a half. Otto (the son) is the least agressive and submissive, although the largest of the dogs. Murphy, the stud, is smaller, but tough. Totally gentle personality. Will kiss you to death, as will Otto.
My question - I do not want to have to give up one of my dogs. What are the chances they will lose their agression and go back to life as normal? They live in a big farm house with a doggy door and 4 fenced in acres. I now play musical dogs all day! If I neuter Murphy now, will we be back to normal by winter? Thanks and sorry post so long!
I thought you said that they only fight when there is a bitch in heat. If this is the case then spaying all the females should eliminate the fighting. I have heard it can take months for the hormones to "die down". I have also heard of it not making a difference with aggression problems. I would give it time.
Thanks Wiley - that was my first instict. Then everyone, icluding my vet said wait. Well winter comes hard and fast here. I live in an old farm house with few doors to seperate them inside. I am calling the vet in the morning. I just want my calm Dobies back without having to find anyone another home. I already gave up a male puppy that I adored, that was hard enough. Girls will all be spayed by September, so no more heat cycles ever! Any other tips on stopping the growling?
I agree, having the girls spayed too will help out alot. They are your dogs so do as you wish not what the vet wants. The quicker the better. You have no plans of breeding, so its all your choice. Hormones take at least a month or so so calm down in a male. I have seen males neutered a week or two still doing the air chomping smelling of the female after a neuter.
Our rescue has had a few dobies come in, whne I was a kid, I was fearful of them. Just because of stereotyping. We have one now named Surrender, he is all love. The other was so cool too. Oh we had three, one a tiny pup. LOL Their great.
Whoever said you can't buy happiness, must have never owned a dog!!!!!!!!!!!
this is probably just an exception to the rule. A friend has a female German Shep. and a male Setter. The setter is nuetered but...... he actually manages to do actually tie with the GSD. No puppies have ever resulted so he is nuetered. They seperate them while she is in heat now but he had been nuetered a long time and could still get the job done. The dont breeder and she needs spayed. The wife wants her spayed but the husband doesnt want to. She has considered sneaking her off to the clinic and having it done, he would probaly never notice.
Hey Ferg- I breed Dobes too, and can't have more than 1 male due to the fighting. I think with time and patience, yours will learn to get along. When a male is altered, they lose the phermone scent of an unaltered male. But don't foget that it takes 6-8 weeks for the body to lose the residual hormones. Then I would put them in kennels that are close together, but seperate so they can learn that neither has the scent anymore and there's nothing worth fighting over. Hey let me know OK? you can contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org and let me know. I may be interested in a pup.....
Thank you so much for the advice. I wish I had good news. Murphy got out of our 4 acres of fencing last Sunday and was struck and killed by a hit and run. I have been so devastated that I couldn't write. The guy didn't even stop. Murphy died as I rushed him to the vet. My beauty boy. Words can not express how much I miss him. My house is calm, but forever changed without my Murphy. His last litter with Hazel is due July 18. I broke my arm trying to get him in the car and to the vet, I didn't even know it, (my hubby was working in Vermont, I am in NY plus I have a fractured spine.) Please keep us in your prayers. He was everything to us. I cry everyday. I miss his Murphy man kisses and so many other things!