I've been reading this blog called itchmo, over the past fews days. they have posted some info on the smartest & stupidest dog breeds according to vet dr. stanley coren. here are the links to the articles, what do you think? i have to agree with the border collie being the smartest.
I'm going to have to agree with the not so obedient list, just from experience around other dogs and what I've heard, however, I know its not fair, there are very good dogs out there for each breed. I will disagree with the Mastiff one though, there was one in the same puppy class as me, that dog was well behaved. I'm going to agree with the intelligent list too, except the cattle dog..I know their extremely smart, and its probably because of the owners, but the male was horrible and mean and blah and the female was okay. :P
My dogs don't make either list! I consider them to be almost as intelligent as some humans, and probably more so than a lot. I think its hard to generalize with intelligence in breeds, the same as it is to ban specific breeds for aggression.
I don't like those lists... humans tend to confuse "trainability" with intelligence.
The Beaucerons I have, and many huskies I have worked with have had amazing intelligence... do they always listen, not so much.
My friend has an Afghan, is he easy to train, not at all, but he is very intelligent and thoughtful. He stays with her at the grooming shop she owns and he is friends with several little Bichon women (he likes Bichons) he can open their crates and let them out to play on his own free will... if that's not intelligence, reasoning and problem solving I don't know what is...
A cat by any other name... is still a sneaky little furball who pukes on the sofa.
I don't care for those lists either, but I do have to say I thought the one about the mastiff was dead on. They are intelligent, but if you talk to them in a harsh voice, the stubbornness kicks into overdrive. The moment that you talk sweet to them they will do whatever you say. That's the case with my baby anyway.
***Edited By: mastiffluv on 7/7/2007 5:59:40 PM*** Reason: *
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Thats how it was when I was training a Clumber Spaniel too. So stubborn, and he had to do things his way. If a collar put too much pressure on him(a show collar put on the correct way), he would freeze, I had to adjust it so it wouldn't tighten when moving or anything. I loved that dog though, Clumbers are definitely a favorite of mine.
I found the same thing with my breed too, Mastiffluv. I am also not to fond of those lists. Faeden does do very well with his obedience training, but I swear as soon as we leave the building, he goes back into noodlehead mode.
Mastiff said~ They are intelligent, but if you talk to them in a harsh voice, the stubbornness kicks into overdrive. The moment that you talk sweet to them they will do whatever you say. That's the case with my baby anyway.
I saw a show a couple weeks ago that said that bad dogs are just extremely intelligent. Thinking in those terms, my dog is a freakin' genius!
My Mastiff was very obedient and well behaved, easy to train. I've seen Mastiffs on many lists saying they are dumb or untrainable...I had quite the opposite experience. You just have to know how to treat em.