My friend at work just had her husky die because of parvo. Very very sad. Shes been a wreak and has tears in her eyes all day long. Something to me seems off tho. I do believe her story of coarse but i asked didnt Sasha have all her parvo shots? this husky was 7 months old i think . She said she thought that parvo was optinal and didnt know she needed it, But her dog did have other shots? Our town just had a big festival that we have every year, Sasha was fine before taking her down to this festival. She started throwing up grass and flem which she thought was just upset belly. Then she wasnt doing better and pooping blood. This happned on sunday and they had taken her down to the festival on friday i think . But anyways they did call the vet and the vet came to the office on sunday morning when Sasha got worse and they figured somethng was really wrong. She jsut started showing signs of being sick saturday. The vet said she was hydrated and gave them a antibotic and sent them on their way. She said they slept with Sasha out in the garage on this big bed they had for her, and about 4 am she passed away. Can parvo hit that hard and that fast? The vet called monday morning to see how Sasha was and they said not good she passed away early this morning and he said he was sorry he didnt think she had parvo or he would of treated her differntly of coarse. But my gosh i cant beleive this vet didnt even catch this. its the same vet i take my dogs to and now im worried that hes over looked things on my dogs and makes me really scared. I told her tho that her dog should of had parvo shots all dogs are suppose to have it and without being caught up on all shots i didnt even take my dogs out of my yard. So then im wondering since the vet didnt know it was parvo when he was treating Sasha did he sterilize the room she was in or is parvo being passed to anther dog in the vets office? How many shots do dogs have to protect them from parvo? i know both my dogs have all the shots they are suppose to have but i told her the only thing i know that is optinal is the bordella for kennel cough which i also get both my dogs. Why wouldnt a vet see that this dog didnt have any parvo shots? she said she had shots. Maybe she didnt just take her in for shots like she is suppose to . she is a younger girl well 21 and maybe didnt know. This is her first dog. My heart breaks for her tho. regardless its negligence on her part for taking her dog to the open space with thousands of ppl and dogs . I dont even and wouldnt ever take my dogs there even with thier shots.. anyways does parvo move this fast? could the dog of gotton it some where else and had it for weeks before passing? or could the dog fo gotton it friday and died early monday morning??
So sorry for your friends loss. Parvo Virus lives in warm-hot months, in the ground, and is transferred quite easily in many ways. Pups should always get a total of 4 puppy shot series ALL of which include Parvo. Unfortunately there are many many strains of Parvo and it is possible, though not common, that a pup that has been given parvo booster still comes down with a rare strain. For the most part, they really do not. I educate my clients on NOT taking their pups out into the world until the puppy is on at least the 3rd puppy shot series due to transfer of this horrible disease. This is also breed specific as I know from others how important it is for other breeds to go out and socialize earlier then the breed I work with. 95% of all vets over my years doing this agree. We are building the immunity of a puppy when we do the 4 series of boosters. By the 3rd, immunity is there (in most cases.. remember there are exceptions to everything)
Dogs also get a 1 year booster. It's now common knowledge and proven that dogs do not need a booster every year, every 3 years is just fine. My vets actually hand out this information to their clients. There has been lots of research on this topic.
I also suggest doing a search on the internet on Parvo and you can get a lot of good information. Again, so sorry your friend lost the pup. No doubt it was because there was no immunity to Parvo and contracted the disease.
Oh, yes, parvo definitely can hit that hard and fast. I have seen this happen to other puppies very sadly. You are correct however in that IF the puppy was getting the puppy shots as scheduled, Parvo should have automatically been included and it would not make sense the vet did not give it. It's part of the booster.
The incubation period for parvo is 3-7 days; so its unlikely that your friend's dog picked it ip at thr fair. Unfortunately it is likely that the husky spread the virus at the fair because the disease is found in the dog's feces. I'm sorry that your friend lost her dog, especially since it was a preventable death. The answer to your question about how hard parvo can hit is once the dog shows signs of the disease, and receives no treatment , it can kill the dog very quickly. There is no cure, but the dog should have been given I.V fluids to replace the loss experienced by all the vomiting and diarrhea. If this vet was your friend's vet, he should have been aware if the dog had not received it's full course of immunizations. Some people think that when they buy a puppy and it's had it's first shots, that's sufficient. It's not, and that's why all good breeders explain the importance of a series of shots, given at regular intervals. The first set (at 8 wks) of shots basically stimulates the puppy's immune system to produce antibodies. That is why it's so important to advise the puppy's new owner of the necessity of the next series at 12, 16, and 20 wks, to make sure the vaccines have worked. A puppy has antibodies from it's mother, but instead of that being a help, as most people would assume, it's not, because there is a period of time when the mother's antibodies are too low to protect the puppy from the disease , but too high to let the vaccine work.That is why I recommend to my puppies' new owners that they do not take their puppy visiting and allow other dogs in to visit until the puppies vaccinations are completed. Parvo can be brought into your home on people's boots, and just about any object you can think of. You can kill the virus with bleach, but it's pretty hard to soak your whole house and yard with it.
Pen, generally speaking you are correct about incubation time. However, I personally know of TWO puppies in the past year who were exposed and had clinical signs in 24 hours. In fact, I saw them with my own eyes, owned by the same owner, were at the vets in ICU when I happen to go there for a puppy count x ray. Was very very sad. Neither made it. Was horrible :-(
Savannah, you're absolutely right, I should have mentioned the fact that the incubation period of 3-7 days is a rough guideline, and in fact as always there are exceptions, especially with young puppies- lots of variables to take into consideration. I was trying not to be too long winded, as usually happens with me; so thanks for pointing that out. I should have also mentioned that different vets have different immunization guidelines, and the ones I gave are my own specific preference.
The brand of vaccine given can too make a difference. Not all vaccines are created equal. Many vaccines given to a young pup functioning off mom's antibodies, can block all protection. You need to make sure the vaccine given will overide the protection, not block it out. This is why I no longer choose to use Ft. Dodge vaccines. I use the Pfzier vaccines now.
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My friend's dog had parvo when he bought his dog (of course he was silly enough to buy him from a pet store) but the pup had to stay in the hospital on an iv to keep it from dehydrating. He's better but I've read that dogs that have had parvo do not live a long and healthy life. Also the shots are no guarantee your dog doesn't get parvo. Parvo virus can live on anything like your shoes for up to 7 months so it's important that everything is well disinfected. The best thing to do is keep your dog away from feces. The doctors should have known better than to send the dog back home. Basically parvo eats away at the dog's intestines and it dies from dehydration.
My rottweiler came down with parvo at the age of 9 month's. My vet had us bring him into his clinic immediately. Long story short my dog was on I/V's for 1 week the duration for parvo is 3 day's to 10 day's. Its very contagious to other animals & the bacteria has to be killed with bleach so if the infected dog was in your house you need to wash your floors down & wipe stuff down with bleach or your other animals have a chance to get parvo. It can be transmitted from dog to dog by feces. Example walking in the park & your dog steps in fecal matter or you do & you drag it home on you or your pet does. Thats why its alwayes best no matter what to get the parvo shot. Since my rotts near brush with death with parvo. Im a firm believer in the parvo shot. He's a strong strapping lad now of 8 years old.
Hello all- Ok ive been very worried now about parvo. Since my friend i mentioned puppy died last week. She was already trying to buy a husky pup from a breeder and she told her that her puppy just died of parvo so this breeder of coasre wanted to talk to her vet to see if this puppy would be safe if she did sell the puppy to her. The breeder did call her back and said that her vet recommends not having a puppy for 2 months even tho she siad everything was cleaned with bleach. Which i thought buying anther puppy so soon thinking the parvo is probably still on their property. This breeders vet said to my friend that this is the worst year for parvo and has many many cases of parvo- which also my friends vet also told her the same thing that there is a outbreak of parvo this year. Ok this is my new question- even tho my dogs have all thier shots, what they are suppose to have for their age, is there any way my dogs can get parvo? Like the flu shot i was thinking about yesterday, you can get the flu shot but it doesnt 100% protect you from getting the flu, Is the parvo vaccine the same way or does it 100% protect your dog?? I dont take my dogs out and about alot just for the fact im worried they will get something but now even more. Hubby wanted to take the dogs today out to his moms rental property that hes doing work on but i dont want to take the dogs out there because there is neighbor dogs that run in that yard and also the renter had dogs in there before. How do i know they dont have parvo? Can my dogs get it? or are they protected and there is no way they can pick this up.
Also the vet refunded the money that my friend paid when taking her pup to the emergency vet - which i thought was nice of the vet. my friend donated the money tho to be used for someone that their dog needs help and they cant afford it. So i thought that was very nice of my friend to do that. She is still heart broken and cries alot at work. She said shes started this grave site for her puppy and planted flowers and ordered a head stone and seems to be putting all her time into this memoral for her dog. If anyone can let me know if my dogs are safe and protected if coming in contact with parvo????
Hi Tape, I am so so sorry for your friends loss and I am taken back by the kindness your friend showed by donating the money back to the vet for an animal in need. More of us should do that. It's really touching. Please exctend condolences from all of us. We all know how sad this is.
To answer your question. It really does sound like you are taking Parvo seriously, doing everything you can to prevent your dog from contracting this disease. There are so many different strains of Parvo as you have learned by this thread, it's been mentioned. We doggie owners can only do so much, and then it's really just called "LIFE". Life throws curves, we can only do the best we can do.
Puppies get a total of 4 puppy booster series, their boosters at 8, 12,16 and 20 weeks of age. Then a year, and again every 3 years (though some vets do them every year but we now know it's not necessary) Of course Rabies is given at 20 weeks of age (which last a year, and then they get a 3 year) along with the 4th series of the puppy booster. All of which should contain Parvo immunity. We use a booster containing Canine Distemper, Adenovirus Type 2-Parainfluenza-Parvovirus Your vet can show you the sticker or tell you exactly what the booster has in it. Different environments however need further innoculations such as Lyme, Lepto and Corona. You can discuss your environment with your vet if you have not already done so.
Specifically related to Parvo, the best you can do is not really take your pups off your own property where you know it's clear of Parvo (assuming you have never had a problem in your own yard) until the 3rd or 4th puppy series. Also, dont expose your puppy to another puppy ESPECIALLY if you do not know 100% if that puppy is up to date on shots too.
Kennel Cough or Bordetella I saw you were doing too, good, continue doing that.
I'm also going to assume you did not expose your dogs to the doggie that sadly passed away. One thing I did not see is how old your dogs are so I dont know if we are discussing puppies or older dogs.
As far as your friend getting another puppy, I 100% agree that time needs to go by, parvo can linger and many times just because we bleach once, it's just not enough. I would not put another puppy back into that environment for a couple of months. I think that's very smart.
Anything else, ask. Again, so sorry to hear the puppy passed away.
boxer, my vet is the same as yours however all vets are different and some just dont check everything out at first. NOT having anything to do with this thread per say, many vets wont do a lot of testing trying to save the client money at first. I think some vets such as mine are amazing clinicians and it just hits them in a split second ALL the possibilities of what they could be dealing with in any given case and they rule them out one by one immediately upon examining and testing the pup/dog or any other animal.
My little rottie "Justice" has parvo. I was uneducated to the puppy mill industry and purchased a puppy through a breeder that is in this industry. Justice was diagnosed last Sunday. We chose to treat him at home. We took him to the Vet everyday for SubQ fluids, antibotics, pepcid and other things. On Friday he was doing much better, alert and playing like normal. We took him to the Vet on Saturday for him normal daily visit parvo and everything looked good. A few hours later Justice spiked a 107 fever. It looks like he had a relapse. He's in the hospital as we speak. His white blood cell count is low and he had a plasma transfusion last night. We're so torn apart on keeping him alive and treating him and paying the bills. I wish I knew what were his chances. Any advice? Does anyone know of any agencies or organizations that help families with vet bills?
JJ I am so very sorry to hear what happened. Please don't take this the wrong way but really the mistake was treating at home. He needed professional care with a staff that knew how to do this. I realize he went up and down but relapse is part of it. I'm a little surprised your vet would encourage treatment at home for such a serious, fatal disease. Not sure I have heard of this before.
Very sorry this is such a sad lesson to learn, all the way around starting with the mill you got the pup at.
I can't imagine not allowing a vet to try and do everything and anything to save a puppy. That decision though is only yours.
There is an agency called Care Credit set up for animal emergencies. 800-859-9975 There web site is www.carecredit.com
My sincere well wishes, I really hope your baby makes it. It's just so hard, I know.
Do not believe all the mess about incubation periods. we traced my Addies and her sisters exposure to over 15 days before. They were over 1 y/o when they got it. One was vaccinated, the other was not. And the illness lasted more than 2 weeks with Addie. The virus is mutating!
My Addie lived because of eary intervention. Her sister's owner decided to wait and she died. I also believe In patient is the way to go.
As for payment and money. I would sold the shirt on my back to keep my dog alive. But that's just me.
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I believe a dog's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment he holds dear, is when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-with a ball in his mouth."
yes there was a out break here at a shelter. they just put down 20 dogs and they may have to put more down because another animal came in with it. I am a little nervous about my puppies now they haven't gone out side. now for sure I don't want them to,
we had our dog die about 2 weeks ago from Parvo, and yes it hits fast. Iurs died within 24 hours. the vet did the same, gave us the pink antibiotic and sent us on our way seeing how the signs were only mild. he died the next day. Our other dog who also got parvo and died within 24 hours as well. Back to back. We had 3 all together die within 24 hours of it. the vet said it was the strongest case of parvo she had ever seen. One of the dogs died before even showing signs of parvo. didnt even have the bloody poop yet, just threw up. It was awful, just awful, and once it hit, we couldnt stop it. make sure she cleans the house with bleach, even the yard with bleach to keep it from spreading. You do not have to bring your dog anywhere to give them parvo. it can be right in your back yard, carried on a birds foot, or even your own shoes. one lick is all it takes... and bam... it is only 20% fatal if the dog has shots... but if it is an enorumous infestation it can kill with shots too, and most likley always fatal if the dog has no shots.