Hi! I came across this site this morning and thought to my self: "As a new puppy guardian, this site might be a helpful tool in raising a properly trained, socialized dog". After reading through some of the posts though, I'm not so sure that any questions that I may have, will be answered with open, sympathetic, caring minds! You see, as far as I can tell, the majority of the "regular" users who answer questions on this site are purebred dog breeders. Some of the answers that I've read posted by these people were in some way demeaning and insulting to those who don't have pure bred dogs. My pup is one of those "designer dogs" that seem to be all the rage these days. But let me tell you, I didn't get her because of that. When I decided to get a dog (over a year ago) my research to decide what kind of breed would suit my downtown, apartment living began. After narrowing my choices down to two specific breeds, a year of visiting the humane society and continuous visits to bred specific rescue sites (I specifically wanted a puppy - if my dog is going to have social issues, I want them to be MY fault!), I happened across an add for mix puppies of the two breeds I was interested in. I felt ashamed for considering a BYB pup, but went to see the litter anyway. I was able to meet both the dam and sire, was shown health checks for the parents(at least it looked offical), I was given the phone number to the vet that the BYB used, and was invited to e-mail if I ever had any questions regarding the pup (I have e-mailed since, and have had responses). The house the pups were born in was clean and well kept. After signing a health guarantee, I went home with my puppy. I'll never win the "someone would have purchased her, so it may as well have been me" argument, but I do not regret have my puppy in my life. In my opinion, a dog is meant to be in someone's life to provide love and companionship. My puppy didn't ask to be born a mongrel, and so I'm going to love her like she's a purebred! A dog doesn't know if it's a purebred or a mix, and isn't that why this site exsists? For guardians/owners/pet-parents and the love of their dogs? That's how I see it, and that's how I intend to use this site. I look forward to being able join in on discussions in the future - all I ask is that you can look beyond the fact that my puppy will never win best in show because she doesn't have champion blood lines. Thank you & have a nice day, DD
Hi DD I also have a mix, a rescue, but don't let things get you down. There are a lot of people who post her who do not have purebreds. I think. I have gotten some very very good information on this site. Try for awhile and see if you don't find yourself responding. Can't tell from the pictures what kind of dog you have, but its yours, you have it, take care of it, love it, and its loves you. In my book that is all that needs to be said. Take care
I really don't think you understand what is being said here. We love dogs and that is ALL dogs, pure breed and mixed.
Our big problem is the people who are lining there pockets with the hype of the mixed breeding. Their are millions that are put to sleep at the shelters every year. With all the puppy mills and byb this will not stop anytime soon.
I want the killing to stop. I want the puppy mills shut down so the parents of the poor sick puppies can stop working their frail bodies to death.
I want the byb to stop so when a dog is being breed the proper tests are done on the dam and sire so the pups are healthy and not sick. You still have a puppy but what happens in a year from now your puppy gets sick from some genetic problem. Just because the parents where not tested for genetic health.
I hope you understand where I am coming from and for that reason I will never condone anyone supporting these practises. I want the KILLING TO STOP! I want the shelters to be empty.
I will not shut up, I want to educate what is happening with these poor dogs. My goal is if one person is reached or one more byb and puppy mill is shut down. One at a time to stop the killing.
Hey DoggyDaddy! Welcome! I think you may have misunderstood a little. People on this forum love dogs OF ALL KINDS. Most of us are just against intentionally breeding mixed dogs when there are so many wonderful mixed breed dogs needing homes in the shelter. If you had to buy from a BYB, it sounds like you bought from one of the better ones, considering that they spent the time and money to health test.
There is no 'my dog is better than yours b/c it's purebred' crap. At least, you won't get that from me anyways. Sorry if you felt unwelcome... there are SOME people on this forum who do like to judge, just don't pay any attention to them. You'll learn really quickly who those people are.
Congrats on your new puppy! We just got two new pups about 3 months apart... Crazy kids! I love'em to pieces! You can see them on my dogster pages below. There is a link to 'my family members' and the pups are in that section.
hey doggydaddy. I'm a breeder, wont hear that from me. It's not someone like you I have issues with at all. No worries.
If you need some help regarding your pup, ask away.
I will tell you this, I came here recently myself. This place has really opened my eyes and I dont say that lightly. I've been working with the breed I am into for many years and sometimes even we professionals can get blinded not seeing what's going on out in the world. If you stick around, you will really learn, and learn from all perspectives. There's really good conversation, even if you have an opposite perspective on something, have to admit it's interesting.
They have already said most of what I would have said. We love all dogs here, even the mutts. Its the irreponsible breeders of the mutts that are pumping them out without regard to health or temperament or even the puppies futures and only caring about how much they can get for them is the issue.
Yes, I am proudly a purebred dog breeder/exhibitor....but I do own mixed breeds as well and do rescue.
People are like slinky's, not really good for much. But its still fun to push them down the stairs.
Hello and welcome. I totally agree with what wiley said. Its not the mixed breeds themselves, but rather the people that are mixing them for pure profit, with no concern for the health and welfare of the dogs or the puppies they produce. Unlike what husky said, i do not find anyone here being "judgemental". Because some prefer to give a straight answer, and not sugercoat it, does not make them judgemental. When people come here asking questions, i would hope that they do not expect that everyone who replies, will have the same response. We are all different, some may seem a little harsher than others, but the majority will help if they feel they have something worthwhile to contribute. This is a forum, a PUBLIC forum. Open to people from all walks of life, with one common interest. The love of animals. If we, at times, do not agree on certain issues, then so be it, it makes for an interesting discussion, But in the long run we are all basically here to educate ,learn and share our love of animals.
If you are a dog and your owner suggests that you wear a sweater, suggest that he wear a tail.
My dogs are better then yours cuz they are pure. Ok bad joke I had to say it because of husky.
Honestly i think all new people feel a little pushed out, trampled on, and offended untill you get to know everyone better. most everyone here has very strong oppions and has no problem letting people know about them. I personaly think its great, but it does take a bit of getting used to.
Hang out for a while and im sure you will see no one hates mixed dogs, or there owners.
I'm gonna trade this life for fortune and fame I'd even cut my hair and change my name
Many many of us have mixed breeds or have had mixed breeds. I have yet to hear even a jerk on here say they don't like mongrels.
Some here breed, (and there are good breeders and not-so-good breeders alike on this very forum), and some do not breed-- I am in this category.. There are people who only rescue or adopt, people who choose to buy purebreds, and people who choose to buy mixed breeds.
It sounds like you already understand what BYBs are and why one might choose not to buy from one. You appear to understand that you took a bit of a risk buying from a byb, and hopefully everything will continue to go well and you will have a healthy happy dog for many years to come! But I get the feeling that since you are aware of BYBs and the risks, purchasing from one likely wouldn't be the advice that you would give someone if they asked your opinion of the best way to go about obtaining a puppy. Doesn't mean there's a darn thing wrong with your puppy or that anyone thinks you should love him less!
With all these diversities and the vast number of members here, it's not the best site for someone who is very sensitive. It can be informative, though, and quite entertaining at times.Sometimes I admit I like to read even the bickering threads for pure entertainment value. I also visit another pet forum that is smaller and therefore a little more closely knit. I find a combo of the two is nice.
"Be who you are and say what you feel. Because those that matter, don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter."
DoggyDaddy, Welcome. I agree with the previous posters. It is not that we hate mixed breed dogs(I have owned lots of mixed dogs over the years). What we hate is the practice of intentionally mixing breeds for profit. The breedings that take palce are not done in the true intention of breed improvement. And by purchasing a mixed breed dog, rather than adopting one, just creates a market for those to breed more mixed breed dogs. There are tons of mixed breed dogs sitting in shelters hoping for a chance to be loved. And no breeding pure bred dogs by responsible knowledgeble breeders does not add to the shelter population. Because a responsible breeder will always take back any dog they ever bred. We never want any dog that we bred to end up in a shelter. The creation of the microchip has made it even easier for we breeders to keep track of dogs we breed. We just put our name as secondary contact on the microchip form, and any dog we bred can easily be returned to us. Yes, this can sometimes be costly to retrive a dog half way around the country. But that is where the word responsible comes into play. Good luck with your new fur kid, and post some photos so we can share in your new bundle of joy.
He's your friend,your partner,your defender your dog.You are his life,his love,his leader. He will be yours faithful and true to the last beat of his heart.You owe it to him to worthy of such devotion
Welcome to TP, please put your fears to rest if you have questions on the health, disclipine, etc of your pup. There are no regular members here who hate, despise or oppose mixed breed dogs.
As Wiley put, what we object to of intentional mix breeding of dogs to line the pockets of the "breeders".
It sounds as if you thought out your particular life style and what type of dog would best suit you. You got that dog and once again welcome to TP. Best of luck to you and your pup and I hope you have many happy years with your pup.
I like him a lot better than I like most people. To you he's a dog. TO me he's an adopted son who is short, hairy, walks on all fours and doesn't speak clearly. I have no problem with any of these. <
Hi DoggyDaddy, I'm glad you're happy with your little dog. It looks like it might have some pug in it, or do I need sronger glasses? I love dogs of all shapes and sizes, but I abhor animal cruelty. There is a lot of great information on this site; so I hope you enjoy participating!
As a breeder of purebred I must agree with the other for the most part but it is not only the mixing of breeds for profit but slapping a name on the results as if they were a breed. I'm sure you puppy will be a wonderful pet, so be proud of it and when asked tell people it is a hybred of the two breeds. It takes many generations to create a breed.
HIIIIIIIII!!!And welcome to TP! I have 34 rescue dogs, (Not kidding) All from a shelter. Mostly abused or dumped, I have 10 puppies and 23 adult dogs. All but one are mixs,the purebred is a Goldie. And I agree with WileyBlaze.
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It's a pitty that you felt you had to introduce yourself in the way you did, but I feel by doing so you did not give the regulars a fair chance. I have found this site to not only be a great educational outlet but also a place to meet fellow dog lovers, as well.
I am not a dog breeder as a matter of a fact I am heavily into rescue & only support those breeders who are breeding for a puprpose such as show, therapy, etc.
That being said, if more new-bees would provide a bit more information they would find TP users to lay off & simply give them advice they are seeking; unless of course it is linked with a question regarding "I'm looking for a designer pup/dog" or "I'm looking to breed for money". For the logical reason that their was no real thought, time, or heart put into these questions.
In your case you tried, researched, and now have a loving dog. Welcome, ask questions, and learn.
welcome to this website i have 2 mix breed dogs yes u will get critisism but u will also get great advice just remember that everyone is entitled to their opinon it may different then yours but someone will see it your way too so my advice is stick around u will get the helpful answer u need
DoggyDaddy...I too own not one but three of the so called "designer dogs" and I can understand your point. I do have to agree that at times it does appear some of the posters jump to conclusions a little too quickly without knowing all the information. Generally all in all this IS a good place to ask questions and get a variety of opinions and great suggestions. What most of the posters hate in here ARE the breeders that simply breed for profit without concern for the health and welfare of the puppies. Once they are sold they're your problem. All BYB and Puppy mills by no means are strictly producing "designer puppies". The majority of them are producing purebred puppies as well. To say that all shelters only have mix breed designer dogs and never a purebred in them would not be an honest statement. The same could be said for all "designer" puppies come from non health tested parents whereas purebred always are. Personally I don't think it's so much the mixing of breeds that's the problem...it's more the conditions of breeding and reason for breeding that's the problem. Both purebred and mixed puppies can come from a variety of places. Some good and some bad.