Hi everyone! I have a question about how to stud out my dog. He is a Great Dane. He is registered AKC and has a 5 generation pedigree. I actually did not get him from the breeder, my husband's cousin did. I was wondering what kind of stud fee could I charge. He is in perfect health. The vet told me I could start breeding him when he is 18 months which is only a couple months away. I do not want to get into breeding but since great danes do not have a long life span, I would really like to have a puppy off of him. Thank you for any information.
Great danes are prone to a lot of health problems. What color is your dane? Do you know anything about coat color genetics in Danes, and what color breedings are approved by the Great Dane Club of America?
Have you had any genetic health testing done on your dog, most specifically OFA certifications for hips, CERF certifications for the eyes, heart clearance, and thyroid? If you cared about the future of any puppy that comes from your dog, you would do these health tests to ensure any offspring your dog produces have the greatest chance of health.
Honestly, 'wanting a puppy from him' is a lousy reason to be breeding.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
Thank you very much for your information. As I stated before he is in perfect health. My vet says I can start breeding him when he is 18 months old. He is a fawn colored dane and I do know about the AKC approved coloring. It may sound silly to you "wanting a puppy from him" but he is a very good dog and very smart. So I would love to have a puppy from him because I know him and will know the female dog I will be breeding with. My question was about the stud fee and how much can be charged in general. Thank you very much for your information.
Mandi, The questions the other poster presented are very important questions to be asked. There is no doubt your baby is in excellent health. The questions however are not regarding "health" but rather JOINTS and eyes and other issues that are prevelant within your breed (and my breed actually) Unfortunately these are not issues we can say are fine unless they are actually x rayed and certified by the OFA (hips/elbows) and the eyes by an ACVO vet (not the general practise vet) American College of Veterinary Ophthomology. Hearts are done by doppler and sent into the OFA.
Your vet should be able to take official OFA x rays (hips/elbows), 18 months are considered Pre Lims with the OFA (2 years are the standard adult) and certainly he she can make a comment "your dog looks fine, the hips appear to be fine as the elbows do" but ONLY the OFA (Orthopedic Foundation For animals, www.offa.org) can certify them sound. Your vet unless he/she is an actual ACVO vet can NOT certify the eyes. What we are speaking about is looking in and behind the retina and cornea for actual problems, folds, dysplasia, cataracs (not those that can be seen by your vet)and other problems.
Another problem is PRA, Progressive Retinal Atrophy which is a horrific blinding disease that takes eye sight at a couple of years old. This is an actual genetic problem and can be tested by Optigen. www.optigen.com
Can you imagine with your best effort and thinking your dog is fine, putting a pup into a family and having that family tell you their puppy is going blind, or at 1 year old the puppy is limping because the elbow problems are so bad. Believe me it happens all the time. You have a large breed, these are so severe with our breeds due to size. I work with Labs. Believe me I know how horrible they are.
Unless your dog is actually certified sound and clear for breeding, it's impossible for a true breeder to give you a scope of stud fee. You should also know, the bitch you are breeding your boy to should also have all the same clearances.
It's not that we WONT assist you with Stud Fee, it's that until your dog is cleared, actually cleared and the bitch you are breeding to is cleared and you know you are doing everything humanly possible to prevent problems with the puppies, we can't. Putting dogs together to have pups even with the best intentions and not researching first and ensuring it's done properly, only contributes to the problem of BYB breeders.
I hope you can take this information and just think about it. If you have questions, I would be happy to help out and answer them.
In answer to your question, if you are purley doing this for "a puppy" then that puppy would be your stud fee. "Professionals" trade stud service for pick puppy all the time it is a standard fee or the cost of said pupy.
I realize that you love your baby, we all do, but if your dog and the female you plan to breed him with throw pups with genetic issues you are setting yourself up for heartache. Even experienced breeders take a risk with every breeding on genetics as well as whelping complications and std's etc with every breeding. Genetic testing and screening is the only way to lower the risk of a sad outcome of even a planned breeding. I am assuming since you know the female that she is owned by a friend of yours. The health testing is important for her as well. Does your friend know how to whelp a litter. Does she know that she can potentially loose her female while in labor or from complications afterwards? Is she prepared for the possibility of a ememgency c-section or other medical expenses? Do you guys have homes lined up for more than just the one pup you are wanting, you could have up to 14 pups or as few as one. Trust me whelping large breed dogs is a TON of work and it's not all puppy kisses and fur babies, there's a lot of poop too!
If you are truly interested in doing this the right way and would like to learn more before going through with the breeding then please ask. I have some links to very informative sites I can send you and I'm sure others here will help as well.
The idea of breeding is to better the breed. In theory if you go about this correctly you woulod want to create a pup that is a part of your dog but even better. Do it wrong and you can have a disaster on your hands. ;)
*oh good lord, i got up in the middle of my post and since then a whole bunch of you have replied, lol, I was going to be the first*
I prefur to have my Bordeaux with fur instead of a cork and bottle ;)
Most people who are seeking an outside stud dog for breed improvement are not willing to give up pick puppy. The normal fee for an unproven stud dog is normally the amount one can fairly charge for a pet puppy.
As many of the other posted stated, being healthy and having health clearances are two different things. And any female worth breeding too, should have them as well. Any responsiable breeder will not want to use your male unless those tests are completed. And 18 months to young to breed a dog considered to be a giant breed. They should be well past 2 years old. The best way to find out fees and to have your male seen is in the show ring. That way you can meet people within the breed and have your dog seen.
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