I'm writing to let everyone know about a scammer who just about fooled me. The name of the scammer is XXX and the email address is XXX. I'm looking for a bulldog for my family and ran across her ad in the Kansas City Star. I am located in Kansas. We got to emailing about her available dog and I was pretty well convinced that this was the puppy for my family. Well then it came time for payment arrangements and she wanted the money to be sent western union. I remembered reading a warning on this site before about scammers and the western union trick. So i emailed them back and asked about other payment options and was told that western union was the only option and this time a different address was given to me. The first time they told me that they were located in Missouri, and this time I was told to send it to Leeds, UK. So, I understood what was happening pretty quickly. So, I want to thank this site for the heads up on scammers and also tell all to beware for this supposed seller. I guess my search for the perfect bulldog puppy for my family will have to continue!!!
***Edited By: shinyblackpit on 9/26/2007 3:58:08 PM*** Reason: can't post names and addys
I came accross a few scammers when looking for my Frenchies. Western Union/moneygram was a huge red flag. Also bad grammar. When i insisted on puppy escrow only, their floods of "buy my puppy" emails came to a screeching halt.
If you are a dog and your owner suggests that you wear a sweater, suggest that he wear a tail.
Glad you caught them! If you are looking for an english bull dog I know a great breeder in Hungary I can refer you to. They also breed Bordeaux Mastiffs like me and I recently purchased one of my girls from them. I have known them for about 6 years now and they are a great trustowrthy kennel to purchase a good solid dog from. Send me a PM if you would like the info :)
I prefur to have my Bordeaux with fur instead of a cork and bottle ;)
how is western union a red flag? what do they do? just so i know in case we ever decide to purchase a dog again... which will be WAY WAY WAY down the road.... just found out we were expecting our second baby!
I've seen a look in dogs' eyes, a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts." - John Steinbeck
"There are individuals throughout the world who will attempt to use any system to receive payments in connection with fraudulent sales or solicitations." This warning was put there due to the increase in scams being done through Western Union.
I have been looking for an English Bulldog as well for a little while now. I've seen all the scams and I've learned their ways. NEVER SEND MONEY VIA WESTERN UNION. If purchasing over the internet make sure to talk to the breeder over the phone at least (if not over the phone there are a few tricks you can use to sniff out scammers). Your best bet is to find a local breeder (and by local I mean within reasonable driving distance) and visit them, see their dogs and ask them questions. If you do look at purchasing over the net, stay away from any EB's that are less than $1000. I've found that any scammer out there will have EB's priced at $1000 or less.
Here's something else you can do. Get them to take a picture of the puppy with a piece of paper with your name on it. If you ask them to do that and they give you a run around about not having a digital camera or it taking time to do it, then leave it. If they have the puppy and can manage to get photos of it on the web they can get a picture for you no problem. I've gotten so mad at some scammers and just got fed up. They even have full websites with pictures, testimonials, etc that make you think they are legit.
On a brighter note, I did find a breeder within the state (Texas) that I can trust. I found them over the net and am going to visit them in a couple of weeks to see their dogs and the puppies. They have sent me pictures of their puppies, their kennels, their home and their dogs. And, they sent a picture of one of their dogs with a picture of my name on a piece of paper next to the dog. So I know the person I'm talking to has the dog in their pictures. The breeder is about a 6 hour drive away, but I will make the drive just to see the puppies and get an idea of their personallity. When we recieve the puppies, the breeder is willing to meet nearly half way so that makes things a little easier. BTW, the breeder I'm dealing with does ship her puppies and does advertise on this website.
Wow thats too bad. I've sent Western Union, Money Orders & Moneygram to purchase dogs myself.
I guess its at your own risk. I think that if you can't trust someone to not scam you out of money how can you trust them to be there for the dogs life? How can you trust they will do what they promise? That they will send you the papers? Send a signed contract back? Actually replace a pup if a problem arises? There are several kennels that had health guarantees that ripped people off for 10s of thousands when the pups/dogs died and they split. If you can't trust the breeder don't send them ANY money in any form.
I have taken checks, cash, moneygram, money order, pay pal & western union. I have always delivered on my part. Its all about being to an honest breeder. You can still be fooled if their is shipping involved but you can usually tell after awhile if they lie about other things then they are not trustworthy. If they contradict themselves. Don't commit right away. Ask for references, even vet references as well as past buyers. A good breeder won't hesitate to give you that.
Also a lady emailed me that has Bulldogs for sale. Don't know why because I don't have Bulldogs. I can PM you the link. I have no idea who they are, if its a scam or whatever, but they sent me the link to their website. Cute pups.