Took my dog to the vet for his last set of shots and his vet suggested that I bring him back in a couple of weeks for neutering, when he found out that this is my intention. (However, since I met one of the vets at the Anti-Cruelty Society and was comfortable with her, I'm going to take Cuba there when the time comes. She talked to me about volunteering, etc.) Back to the subject at hand... isn't 5 months a bit too young to have him neutered? I know there are varying schools of thought regarding this but with my previous dogs (both female) it was suggested that I have it done between 6-9 months, which I did. Cuba is only 4 months now...
I totally agree!! The sooner the better and a faster recovery. When they're that young they spring back fast!! Your vet knows what she's talking about. I've had all of my babies neutered young with no problems!!! They do just fine!!! Some vets even let you take them home that very day if the procedure is done early in the day. Neutering isn't an invasive surgery and they do well afterwards. I trust that he'll do just fine!!! Keep me posted!!
IMO there are two things to look at when choosing the age to neuter in your situation. How important is Development to standard to you and How important is your furniture to you, lol. The younger you do it the less likely he is to develope the bad habbits that come with maturity, like marking and territorial agression. Typically a larger breed male will be affected growth wise more than a smaller breed. There are many studies out there as to different cancers and neuter vs, do not neuter. Of course there is any doubt at all that he could get away and sire an unwanted litter then definatly neuter. Your lifestyle, his breed and temperment have a lot to do with what the correct age is for you to do this. With my pups I reccamend that they are neutered no sooner than 8 months but prefer for them to wait untill they are 18 months if possible, but of course this is not possible to wait this long in all cases.
I prefur to have my Bordeaux with fur instead of a cork and bottle ;)
He's an APBT. I'm not concerned about unwanted litters because he never goes outside without me and he's always on-leash. Even though he's a puppy, because of the possible backlash I don't leave him to his own devices. I work mainly from home so I'm able to give him plenty of exercise. I've read some of the studies about the cancers, etc. and that's why I'm wondering if 5 months is just too young for him to be neutered. Thanks for your input. I'm thinking that I'm going to wait until he is at least 9 months, but we'll see. I'll talk to more vets also.
I was going to say how important is his growth to you, but I see Red beat me to it! There is no rush to neuter a dog. As far as the recovery goes, I just had a 1 and 1/2 year old done. I took him to the vet at 8 in the morning, and picked him up at 2.30 He was straining and jumping on the leash when the vet brought him out, and trying to jump on my knee, when I sat down (he did'nt only because I picked him up). You would never know he had surgery, never. Now he's built like a little brick S$%Thouse, and that will never change. I see no need to neuter before 9 months, if that personally. Just my opnion.
***Edited By: Pen2 on 9/30/2007 10:46:57 AM*** Reason: addition
Neutering young may "feminize" your dog, as in, he may not develop the solid, stocky structure that you would expect for the breed. Like others have said already...if you don't care about this, then neuter young.
I know this is important in labs, but not so sure about APBTs. One friend who has a lab regrets neutering him young (~4-5 months) because the dog looks tall and skinny, he has long, gangly legs and his head or body never filled out. A family member who breeds labs tells new owners not to neuter the males before one year.
Another friend recently bought a Portuegese water dog, and their contract with the breeder states they cannot neuter the dog younger than one year.
Wiley, I know where you're concerns lie, but the Op has already stated that his dog is with him at home, and with him, on a leash, when outside. It is important in the Bully breeds to get the muscle formation, and the look you want, (if that's what you want)and by neutering too early, as Illini said, you can ruin that. I have done both, and there's a world of difference in the way the dog looks.
Wiley, I can assure you there will be no accidental breedings (or any breedings at all). I waited until I was able to work from home before I got this pup so that he can be well trained and socialized. I even have four kids from the neighborhood come over and play with him (and I keep him on an extendable leash) so that he can stay used to children. I do want him to have the musculature of his breed and didn't realize that an early neutering would inhibit this but I thought it was strange getting it done so early since my previous dog vets (in another state or I would have gone back) advised me to wait until at least 9 months.
Skyman, aggression does'nt necessarily kick in. I have a pair of neutered dogs who would still try to kill their un-neutered sire, if given half a chance. Neutering does'nt necessarily change the nature of a dog. In my breed I usually wait to see if I want to breed the male, which can take up to a year and a half. That's not nessarily true for those who don't breed and show.
Typically in the larger bully breeds the teritorial male behavior does not click any earlier than 16 months and same goes for marking teritory. They simply mature much slower both physically and mentally than most breeds it is when you are approaching the terrible 2's that you need to really watch them and that's neutered or not. I hit 2 years with one of my studs next month and the other male and his sister in January. With three 2ers at the same time I am going to have my hands full, LOL!
I prefur to have my Bordeaux with fur instead of a cork and bottle ;)
This is great feedback, thank you all. I'm going to watch his development as well as consulting with another vet. I'm sure that because I live in Chicago vets are probably encouraged to suggest neutering early. There are a lot of APBT's here and I'm sure they don't want any more added to the population, which I can understand. However, I didn't buy my puppy with the intention of breeding him. He's beautiful and all that but I'm not a breeder. (Been there, done that with parrots.)
Well, everyone already beat me to it, and I agree with what they said. (that's what I get for leaving for the weekend...)
The animal shelters here have a policy, when you adopt a pet, you have 2 weeks (I think,,no more than that) to make an appt. with a vet and have the animal spayed/neutered if it was not already done.
When I worked as a vet tech, we had cats that were adopted come in at 5 weeks to get "fixed", and dogs as young as 4 months. That particular vet would do it at that age only if it was an adoption and had to be done, and as long as all the "equipment" was there. (males) Otherwise he would not spay/neuter until atleast 7 months for dogs and 5 for cats.
Different vets have different opinions, and I believe that you should go with your gut. If you think it is too young, and have control of him, then wait.
Tigger my male was neutered right from the shelter at 8 weeks, way too young in my opinion. Winter was spayed well over a year closer to 2 years but her's was because of other more serious health issues. Storm has not been spayed and will not be spayed, due to her not being able to go under for the surgery.
Males I personally think should be neutered around 8 months to a year.
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You guys are great! I wasn't looking for anyone to agree with me, necessarily, but it just didn't feel right and I was looking to see if there was a compelling reason that he should be done that early. I'm going to wait a bit. He will definitely be neutered, but on my schedule. I was just told that since he is an APBT the city will do it for free (they REALLY don't want anymore breedings done here!)
I would love everyone's opinion. New to this forum with a new 5 month old black lab. He is high energy and my backyard (nor my aching knees!) allows me to let him run the way he needs to. We have a great dog park with 3 acres of open space. He loves it there. The problem is that now that he is not neutered, any dog automatically seems to growl at him even when he is in a submissive position. What then happens is he takes this energy and redirects it at me by high energy nipping and this week attempts at trying to mate. I'm keeping him away from the dog park until he is neutered and my vet said 5 months is fine. I'm not breeding the dog nor care too much about the standard, but do want him to still have the more stalky look of the English lab. I specifically chose an English labrador breeder specifically for their look vs. the American Lab. Any advice? I feel he is showing signs related to hormones, but don't know how to redirect it with a high energy dog. What's also important to me is that he can be properly socialized around other dogs but this seems to be impossible based on how the other dogs approach him. They also take his jumpiness and rolling around as unfriendly but everyone keeps telling me it's because of his scent and is threatening to other dogs. Advice?
here is the breeder i told you about in your other post. according to her there is NO SUCH THING as teacup shih - tzu's. http://www.morganshih-tzu.com she is in endicott new york , is that close to long island ? sorry i originally thought she was in conneticut. penny has 3 lovely shih tzu's from this woman. http://www.eastbuy.org