Let me start off that I am not interested in adoption and am seeking a puppy from a breeder. Again, no adoptions please.
I am having the hardest time looking for a dog because eveyrone loves their dogs and often times more than humans. :)
I don't fit into that category, but would really love a dog.
I'm realizing that I need to have a dog that suits my lifestyle.
Here is what I would like in a dog. I'm going to be honest here and what we need in our breed.
-Non Shedding is a must. (I already have 2 cats). -Breed that easily houstrains as we work and can only come home for 45 min at lunch. -We do have a home with yard, but not super huge yard. -A dog that doesn't need to be joined at our hip. We are NOT these type of dog owners. The dog sleeping in our bed and taking showers with us is out of the question and people usually get offended by that. But we do need our space I hope people understand that. We want to be pack leaders, not actually in the pack. -A dog that is not overly active and barking all the time. Many dog owners love the barking, we don't.
We will take a very active part in training and obedience, but do realize that some breeds are not for us.
We both have jobs and cannot dedicate 24 hours a day with the dog at our hip. But we do love pets and would love to have a dog.
I've read the best option is a poodle that would suit our needs but i'm reading conflicting things on how active they are. One website listed them as 'Very Active' which is the highest activity rating - more than the Husky and Border Collie. Then I read that Toys are more docile becuase in homes they can run around and get more excersise. Then I read the opposite about them so have no idea what to believe now.
The Bichon was rated as an 'inactive breed' but I've heard bad things about housetraining and the 'join at the hip' factor.
You've done a good job of listing your wants. It sounds to me that a poodle might be a fairly good fit. A few comments I might add:
-- Dogs, like people, have personalities that vary along a continuum. It's hard to predict the personality of a single dog, especially in puppyhood.
-- The personality and characteristics of a mix will be harder to predict than that of a purebred.
-- A small puppy will require an *intense* period of interaction/training/patience that can be very trying -- even if someone is at home full time.
- I haven't heard about bichons and housebreaking problems. If anything, what I've read has been the opposite.
- On the whole, your list of wants (demands?) seems a little rigid. Maybe it's just the way you worded them. Keep in mind that a dog will introduce a level of chaos to your home. You need to be honest with yourself if that is something that you really want or not.
My advise would be to start contacting poodle and bichon breeders. They should be able to explain to you the characteristics of their lines (calm vs. spastic, independent vs. clingy, easy vs. hard to housebreak). A good breeder can help you figure out if one of their dogs will fit into your life or not.
I'm not trying to be rude, but why do you want a dog? It doesn't sound like you really want one to give attention to or play with. Again, not to be rude, but if you want one that doesn't shed, doesn't go in the house, doesn't want attention, doesn't want to sleep with you or sit on you or play with you, it kinda sounds like a stuffed animal would work? =o)
mikedavid, You've said more than once that you'd love a dog and that you're an animal lover. I'm sorry, but you don't sound like one. You say you don't want a dog that's joined at the hip. How can you possibly predict that? Just about every dog I've ever known would, if given a choice, choose to be with their owners.Have you had a dog before, and if so, what breed and what happened to it, did it die naturally, etc.?
Debi79 and Pen2 i agree 100%. You dont sound like your ready for a dog. Read below for the advice i gave you.
-Non Shedding is a must. (I already have 2 cats).
Rules out alot of the long haired breeds and most of the short haired breeds.
-Breed that easily houstrains as we work and can only come home for 45 min at lunch.
ONLY 45 minutes a day?!? Well that is going to be a problem unless you crate train him, because without you being home what will he do? So crate training him would be the way to go and then when you have the time, like on weekends, you can try to train him then i guess...
-We do have a home with yard, but not super huge yard.
Rules out any BIG dogs and dogs that need to be active.
-A dog that doesn't need to be joined at our hip. We are NOT these type of dog owners. The dog sleeping in our bed and taking showers with us is out of the question and people usually get offended by that. But we do need our space I hope people understand that. We want to be pack leaders, not actually in the pack.
Rules out MOST dogs exspecially Toy Breeds, they tend to get very attached to their owners. And also rules out many other dogs because dog want to be with you. They want to feel as though they are part f the family and if you just leave them out of it it can lead to many other bad things.
-A dog that is not overly active and barking all the time. Many dog owners love the barking, we don't.
Again with the Toy Dogs, Working Dogs, Herding Dogs, Terriers, Sporting Dogs, and many, many other dogs.
What you are looking for in your dog is good but it conflicts alot. You cant have a BIG dog because you dont have the yard for exercise and obviously dont get home during the day to take it on the proper walks it needs. So you would be looking for a smaller dog that can get the adequate exercise from a small yard, but THAT cinflicts with the barking, shedding, AND activeness. And as for the hyper part that rules out Toy Breeds too and most of the medium size dogs and acually all the dogs from the groups i listed above. And as for the "glued to hip" thing, most dogs, exspecially with you being gone so much, when your home will stick to you like glue because your nott home that often to play with. Also it rules out again most Toy Breeds because they love to be right there with you at all times.
My suggesion is why dont you go out and adopt a pretty little dog from your shelter that NEEDS loving home to go to and let it go from there. Because obviously you dont have the time or commitment to take care of any other pure breeds. Sorry if i sounded mean, i wasnt trying to, but i dont know what else to say. If i said something wrong please correct me.
First off there is no such thing as a non shedding dog. Or human, cat or other species covered in hair or fur. Hair/fur dies and has to go somewhere. There are breeds that may shed less, but there is NONE that do not shed at all. Impossiable request.
How about a Beagle. They are small, and pretty independent dogs. I have never had one that wanted to climb in bed with me. But they do tend to be barkers/howlers. Dogs were given a voice for a reason, but you can train them to what is and isn't acceptable behavior. The fenced yard will have to be very secure, because Beagles like to dig and can climb.
He's your friend,your partner,your defender your dog.You are his life,his love,his leader. He will be yours faithful and true to the last beat of his heart.You owe it to him to worthy of such devotion
A couple more questions. Why are you so intent on a purebred puppy, from a breeder? Why is adoption out of the question? I would think you'd have more luck adopting an older dog because of all the specifications you have. You will never be able to accurately predict the behaviour of a puppy 100%.If you adopt an older dog, his behaviour and personality is already developed. Just my opinion.
Why do you say you are a dog lover? You sound like a dog admirer maybe but love? Love is not selfish and demanding like your list of requirements. Love makes sacrifices, they don't all have to be big sacrifices but there must be some give-and-take with a dog. A dog's very nature requires you to be part of the pack if you are going to be pack leader and it is to live in your home. They are pack animals. Expecting it to be aloof yet ornamental is unrealistic. Not letting it be part of the family is pretty much equal to not meeting its most basic of emotional (yes they DO have emotions) needs. It would be a bit different if you were talking about a working dog but not by much and you sound like you are looking for a pet, not a working dog. You are not a dog person, at least not right now. You are however, a perfect cat person. Dogs are messy. They have needs that are not always convenient or attractive. They are not accessories. Stick to cats.
Do not give the guy a hard time. I was once him. Not really a dog person. But my tune changed after raising one. You almost cannot help but be a dog person. It's the evolution. The man has not felt the loyalty of the dog yet. I do not really love dogs. I love my dogs. Other peoples dogs I do not view them with same loving tolerance I do my own. I am very critical of thier dogs. Both good and bad. But This is the evolution of life. The man speaks like a person whom has not yet raised a dog. It's like me before my son was born. I liked kids. but I prefer if they were quiet and did not drool. But when I got my own, things changed. I have faith that the human condition will prevail and after caring for his own dog, he will accept the dog for who the dog is. Not for the expectations he has now. The dog to him is just an idea at this point. Nothing more. When the dog is in the fleash. It will have life, feelings and emotions. The first time the dog gets excited to see him after some time apart, or the dog jumps on the bed to give him some loving i guarntee the dog will be more than just an idea. It will be his dog.
First shedding I have found is not particular breed based. I am in a breed club. And all the dogs of the same all shed very different. some a little, some a lot. There are breeds like a husky or german shepherd which all are going to shed. Also, There are dogs like poodles that thier hair grows more like a humans and not a dog. but these breeds tend to be very devoted to thier handlers. As for the dog that are not "glued" to you. This trait is in all dogs to a point. I have met very few dogs that are not affectionate to thier owners. Dogs are just hard wired to be like that. And If you give this up, your are going to give some amount of trainability. The more the dog is in love with you, the easier it is to train them.
This is my advice. Just start looking at dogs, go visit some litters. I guarntee the dog will choose you, more than you choose them. Take your time. Make a decision with your head and not your heart.
And all dogs are easy to potty train. with the exception of dogs that have grown up in filth. Potty training problems are not from within the dog. They are handler problems.
start reading up on crate training and using a crate to potty train.
I believe a dog's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment he holds dear, is when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle-with a ball in his mouth."
Mikedavid, another alternative is to talk to breeders about some of their older dogs. Oftentimes, they don't just have young puppies but keep some until they're almost a yr old, for various reasons. Biggest chances are they would come housebroken and you'll get a chance to see what their personality is really like since they're closer to sexual maturity. They're usually still young enough to exhibit the endearing puppy qualities but have gotten a lot of the annoying puppy habits (like chewing) out of their system.
"We do have a home with yard, but not super huge yard."
"Rules out any BIG dogs "
Actually, a lot of big dogs are couch potatoes. As a general rule, I have found that a lot of the medium size dogs require a LOT more exercise than the larger breeds.
"Many dog owners love the barking, we don't."
"Again with the Toy Dogs, Working Dogs, Herding Dogs, Terriers, Sporting Dogs, and many, many other dogs."
Here, again, I disagree. I own 2 dogs, both sporting breeds, and I have rarely heard either of them bark. A well-trained gun dog is not going to go barking at every little sound. (Maggie might POINT at something, but she rarely barks at it, lol!)
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
I want a baby but.. I don't want him to wake up throughout the night, I want him potty trained by 2yrs of age, and I really don't want to carpool for him and drive him all over once he starts playing sports. Maybe I could adopt one that would suit my needs?
well, mikedavid hasn't responded....I agree that the dog will choose you, but again, you have to be willing to give it some leeway in the training and loving on you. Also true, a dog seems to be more willing to train for you and please you if they love you totally because they reciprocate the love you give them. Love dusty's reply and the last post about the adopting a child....(although, I must say I was trully blessed cuz my two year old little boy was totally potty-trained a week before he turned two.....is that the kind of child you want?) lol