It's much more patriotic to spew rhetoric about 'America', yet lie to our nation and start a war that we had no business entering. Our troops are still not home after how many years? How many American lives have been lost in Iraq? Anyone who challenged the war with 'reason' was deemed 'unpatriotic'.
I will take someone who truly has the needs of OUR PEOPLE at heart, over someone who just puts their hand over their chest or wears a pin any day.
As a Canadian, I'm surprised there's anyone who wants to take over the mess that G.W. has created in your country! Best of luck to whomever that is (IMHO, it would probably be a coloured person or a woman!)
I'm thinking Obama was standing there blown away by just how awful the singer was. She wasn't Roseanne bad, but getting there, unless it's just a warped recording. This was not an official patriotic observance, subject to protocol, it was a barbecue. And that bit about his supposedly refusing to say the Pledge of Allegiance is a lie. Didn't happen, even the Snopes article says there's nothing to back up that claim. There's nobody to sue over it, since the source is an anonymous e-mail.
At baseball games and such they say "Please rise for the National Anthem." Whether you want to also put your hand over your heart is optional. As is the rising itelf, technically. So naturally the Obama campaign immediately provided several other pictures of their candidate with hand over heart during the same ritual at other events. In case anyone thinks snopes.com is an unbiased reporting site, they also make fun of Obama's name, which he came by as an infant like most of us did.
About the lapel flag pin, he's addressed that in interviews, saying he'd rather demonstrate his patriotism with his words and actions than claim it with a symbolic gesture, one that too many people have taken up whose actions are anything but patriotic. You'll never see as many flag pins anywhere as in our rife-with-corruption Defense contracting industry. The whole flap reminds me of that John Prine Vietnam-era song, "Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore."
***Edited By: JoanEK on 11/4/2007 4:38:53 PM*** Reason: *
Bush is not bad... liberals LIE to make people think he's bad. Thank GOD Gore is not in office is all I can say.
What qualifications does Hillary have to be president? Shes a senator, so what? Shes done NOTHING else with her life to make herself worthy of being president. She's a very vicious, nasty woman on top of it. If she wins, I can guarantee you the economy will be shot, among other things.
LOR -- I don't think lying or cheating are conservative traits. And I don't think being conservative makes a person stupid either. I'm just on the other side of the fence on a lot of public policy issues. Where I live and work, liberals and conservatives don't consider each other to be natural enemies, unless they're political professionals. Even at that, there's a lot of fraternizing and even intermarriage.
Hmm, now I'm wondering if there's any correlation between dog breed of choice and political leanings. Lab owners can swing either way, come to think of it. Though maybe there's something behind the phrase "yellow dog Democrat."
***Edited By: JoanEK on 11/4/2007 5:31:17 PM*** Reason: *
I guess some are still in denial. Bush is not bad...he is terrible. I am not the minority on this, have you seen the rating and polls for pete's sake?
And as far as saying liberals lie...Show me ANY politician, democrat or republican, that doesn't lie and I will show you a politician that is lying to cover up the fact that he/she lies. Let's get real here.
The economy is shot anyway, we don't need Hilary to do that for us, it's been gone for awhile now.
And as far as qualifications, what qualifications does Bush have besides producing non-existing words, botching elections, and not having a brain of his own?
"We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart"
How is the economy shot?? Unemployment is LOW. Businesses are doing well.
The news "makes" the polls say what they want to say. If you don't believe that the news channels arent biased, you are totally ignorant. They should all be tried for treason if you ask me, the way they so blatantly hurt our soldiers by LYING about the war.
Hillary is a joke. Come live in NY for a while and see what "good" she's done. Yeah, right. All she wants to do is raise your taxes. Go ahead, vote for her. You'll be poor before you know it.
My mother has strong opinions about politics. One time a couple years ago when my parents came to visit, she was discussing some issue with my husband. We don't know what it was -- the tension or urgency in voices? -- but our cat suddenly lunged at my husband -- teeth and claws bared.
Now if my mom comes to visit (or if I start acting like her), my husband can say, "I'm sorry. I can't have this conversation, or the cat will attack me!"
“liberals LIE to make people think he's bad” So what is the excuse when even the republicans aren’t so gung ho about backing him up anymore? Liberals don’t have to lie to make Bush look bad, he does a fine job all by himself.
“The news "makes" the polls say what they want to say.” So ALL the news stations are lying about the polls and ratings?
You sound very childish with these excuses so there is no sense in discussing it further. I always think I can have a reasonable conversation with a republican, and I am always proven wrong.
Excuses are convenient, but they don't erase the truth.
"We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart"