We have our bedroom hallway blocked off with a baby gate, so the dogs cant go back in that part of the house where all the bedrooms are. But every time we step over the gate all 3 of the dogs go crazy and attack us, Louie the youngest bites your toes and bites on your pants ect- Daisy just jumps and walks on her back feet trying to get attention- and Bentley also does the same thing, jumping and barking and just pestering the crap out of anyone.
Ok they also do this when we come home from work or my gosh even leave the house for 2 minutes, you cant even walk threw the house to the table to set your things down because they are on you and you cant walk with out steping on one of them- So of coarse i stop , put my groceries or purse or what ever i ahve in my arms and give them each attention and then go about what i need to do.
The barking and jumping is just getting way worse. I use to have a problem with Daisy and Bentley awhile back but did ignore them when walking threw or coming home and it did get some what better but found it to be just as easy to stop and give them each some love and then they were fine. Are they jsut saying hello??? lol But Louie is the pest, he bites on to your sock and wont let go and bites on your pants , Hubby is getting very fustrated with this because you cant walk threw the room- The kids getting up for school in the morning and the dogs are attacking them when they come over the gate,. With Louie i have tried to ignore him, He doesnt get the hint at all and nothing phases this monster...lol For as tiny as he is hes very persistant and ignoring him doesnt even do anything because he will just keep biting on your feet and shoes when you try to put them on or take off with your socks when your trying to put them on- lol Louie is about 8 months old and is a maltese- cute as a button but his nick name is Cujo He will come running at ya with his teeth just a chomping . He isnt trying to hurt when he bites but does bite hard some times, what can i do to stop this behavoir? Daisy is just over 1 year old and Bentley is just about 2 years old. Set in their ways im sure-
Also anther problem i have with Daisy and Bentley still to this day is barking, they bark at my husband and they know its him walking threw the bedroom door or coming in from the garage, and bark and go crazy- He can be out in the living room and me and the dogs are all in bed and every little noise he makes the dogs bark like crazy and growl- but they can be in bed with him and im out there making noises and they never bark and also when he comes into the bed room to get in bed they growl and bark but again i can come in and they never make a noise- Why is this?
Sorry so long, just didnt want to start anther topic about the barking also-
Tapettyjohn, I know you have posted on these issues in previous posts. I am 100% sure that when you posted previously on these topics, you have gotten advice on these matters from many people on this forum, including myself. Yet it seems like every month or so you come back and post the question or on the same subject, expecting different responses?
So my final conclusion is this. Your dogs are spoiled little brats, that have learned you and your family members will give them attention on demand, if they are persistent enough. You have repeatedly rewarded their bad behavior in the past (biting, jumping, barking) by giving them positive attention by petting them, touching them, talking baby talk to them, etc when they are being bad, so they see no reason to stop. Why should they, when they keep getting what they want?
Now, all that said, AGAIN, my advice is, get out the water spray bottle. Squirt the dogs when they jump and ignore them until they calm down, especially your little hellion Louie, when he bites at your pant legs. Do not use your hands to push them away (apparently they see this as it's own positive reinforcement), because touching = petting/love to them. With the water squirts, they will learn their bad behavior gets them attention, and it's not good attention that they've gotten in the past.
Well excuse me for asking about this "again" Bentley and Daisy did calm down alot and were doing pretty good for awhile till we got Louie, and now its all started over again. We DO use the spray bottle and really doesnt phase anyone anymore , well the new cat but thats about it.
Yes to you im sure it looks like my dogs are spoiled and dont have any manors or any training but most the time they are decent and do listen- But it seems this is now a game to them and it is just getting worse. Daisy and Bentley will get a clue and go lay down, But not Louie, No matter what we have tried it doesnt work.
Im not looking for a differnt answer but i didnt ask about anything to do with Louie, Honestly we didnt have this kind of problem with Daisy and Bentley- ya the jumping and such but not biting on your feet and wont let go ect.
If it bothers you to reply on this/my topics please just pass them by. And it isnt at all taht im not getting the "answer i want" so im being a baby, as ive read posted about other members. There is no need at all to be rude or calis about a problem i was asking about Why does it bother you if i asked it 100x? if the problem still isnt fixed why cant i reask to see if some one else had this problem with 3 dogs and see what worked for them???
When they come at you, turn away and cross your arms over your chest. Look at the ceiling. No words or eye contact. Continue to turn away until everyone is quiet and then praise them. Keep doing this, not so much as a word or eye contact unless everyone is sitting quiet. Eventually, they'll get the message.
I know when I come home and my son has some of the other dogs here, which can be up to 16, it's a gong show. I basically say hi to everyone, and then ignore them, but they were'nt biting, just jumping for attention.Is your dog Louie crate trained? Maybe you could start to stop the biting behaviour by crating him when you're out, and then reward him for being a good boy (as long as he does'nt bite)when he comes out.
To add to popsicletoes and Minniyars excellent suggestions, walks! Long hard walks ASAP.
It won't give them the chance to trample you if you make it matter of fact with no attention and talking unless it is a command, latch their leashes and drag them out the door for a good couple minutes, work them hard with a fast pace and don't give them time to sniff around and smell the roses. Give them constant direction and guidance with control of that leash. These walks are meant for distraction/redirection of the negative greeting and for burning off that crazy pent up energy. There will be plenty of time to goof around on other trips outside during the day.
Reward them with treats and attention once they get home, unhooked, sit quietly and nicely. It's a nice way to exercise and unwind yourself too.
When other people enter your home, I would have them leashed and remove them to another room until they have settled.
If they start up again once they've left that room at the sight of someone new, take them right back as many times as needed very to the point no talking or attention. Just stand there with them, don't look at them. When they show signs of acceptable behavior once returning, reward them. Negative; remove completely from the situation, distract, redirect.
To me it sounds like they do not get enough attention. Why do you say you have the hallway blocked off to the bedrooms and then you restate that when the dogs are in the bedroom with you or hubby whatever and they bark for noises? Are they allowed back there or not? How much one on one attention do they get and how many times are they walked a day? I know my dogs when they have been crated all day or we have been gone all day and have not seen them will act this way and then once we have the loving done they will be fine. They do not do this everytime we get home.
Walk them and give them more attention. You mentioned a NEW cat? To me it sounds like you have too many pets and cannot give them all the right amount of attention and love that they need. My suggestion? Stop bringing all these animals home until you have the problem under control and can give them all the attention they deserve.
AND BUY SOME CRATES FOR THE DOGS!!!!!
***Edited By: weimngolden on 11/16/2007 4:13:30 PM*** Reason: added crates
I wasn't being rude or callous, I was being honest. I am saying instead of posting again and again on the same general subject matter, I don't understand why you don't revisit previous posts you've made on the same topic and try other peoples suggestions, as I've seen numerous examples listed of methods to deal with your dogs. Because to me it looks like you are getting the same answers over and over again.
Put a leash on Louie and tug him away firmly when he chews on your pant legs. Be abrupt, so he knows it is not a game. Are you squirting the dogs in the body, or in the face? Ideally you want to hit him right on his nose. Mix some vinegar in with the water, dogs find that smell incredibly offensive and it's harmless.
Are you talking to the dogs when you come through and they are going nuts with the barking and the bouncing and jumping and biting? Stop talking, ignore them verbally until they calm down. Leave the room as soon as they start acting up, it doesn't sound like you are doing that, either.
And as I recall, you don't want to crate your dogs, or was this someone else? So you don't have the chance to let them out one at a time to get some one on one time with you, so whenever anyone comes in the room they are all 3 vying for your attention at once, instead of getting it one at a time. Start separating them at nights, so you get a chance to encounter each one individually. This way when your family walks into the room in the morning there won't be "Me me! Look at me!" from all 3 of them at the same time when you get up in the mornings. Every day take each of them aside and spend time with just that one dog, with small training sessions, especially with Louie since he seems to be the hellraiser atm.
I think you've reached critical mass with the number of pets you own. In fact I thought you were pretty darned close to it when you got Daisy, due to how many health and behavior issues you were having with her. You had your hands full with just Daisy and Bentley, and then went and added a 3rd dog and a cat into the mixture and upset the delicate balance that had just barely been achieved.
***Edited By: Minniyar on 11/16/2007 4:11:15 PM*** Reason: add
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
I agree 100% with Minniyar. We didn't add a 2nd dog to our home until Maggie was about 2 1/2 years old. This gave us PLENTY of time to get Maggie trained.
We also crate the girls. When I come home from work, I put away any groceries and do a quick sort through the mail. The girls sit quietly in their crates and wait. I let Maggie out first-she comes out, stretches, does NOT jump on me, and I greet her and give her some one-on-one attention.
Then I open Emma's crate. She does the same routine-a big stretch, and then greets me with 4 on the floor, which is what they were taught to do. When they want to jump around and act crazy, they jump on each other-they KNOW it is unacceptable to act that way to me.
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
They could just be scared of men as some dogs are. No reason just some perfer female to male. Show them that he is a good guy. Have him, when he comes in the room, give them all a treat and loving and when he makes noises have him yell their names so they know who it is then come in and give them a treat. Just a suggestion. As to your other concern i have NO idea! I have some of the same problem also so no help from me!
"Yes to you im sure it looks like my dogs are spoiled and dont have any manors or any training but most the time they are decent and do listen-"
Im sure your dogs do have some manors and they do listen most of the time. Thats EXACTLY how my dogs can be, Sweet and proper on minute, a TOTAL wreck the next. Have you tried entering him in socialization classes or basic training classes? I feel in your situation it might be good, EVEN IF you have already done it. It gives them something to do/look forward too!
I also agree with popsicletoes 100%. This is a good way to get the message across to them WITHOUT accidently renforcing the problem.
All of the dogs and cats sleep with us at night, durning the day i have the bedrooms blocked off with a baby gate, so they are where i can see them and for the main reason of blocking off the carpeted area of our house, i do this even when i am home and when i am not home. My dogs get TONS of attention, they are with me every second i am home and i do walk them every evening for a mile long walk, which is how long our private road is. THe thing if anything about the attention thing is they get TO MUCH attention so they dont know what to do when they dont get all my attention 24/7 when im at work and such. They are with me every second i am home, they follow me everywhere and sit with me on the couchs and attention isnt at all the problem, Just they want more attention . The baby gate is taken down at night so of coarse they can leave the bedroom when they want and come out in the living room, dinning room and kithen which is all one big open area, But this is in the morning when me and the dogs get up and i put the gate back up so they cant be in the bedrooms with out me watching them, also the kids rooms and bathrooms are back there, and the dogs will be on the bed with me and hubby will still be out in the living room and every noise they hear they bark at but only if its him out there not me,
Yes when ppl do come over i use the spray bottle which was a maricle worker last thanksgiving as we have family over and all they do is bark so last thanksgiving it was way nice not having them go crazy, but now they are getting so use to the spray bottle i dont think its going to work like last year..lol It does bother Daisy and Bentley and they will correct their behavoir by just showing them the bottle, Louie will just look at me like saying ya so what. doesnt phase him one bit.
The dogs are hear alone while hubby and myself work, i work part time and im only gone 6-7 hours tops 4-5 days. I do take my days off durning the week so that way im home 2-3 days with them and then hubby home on weekends so that way they are really only alone home a few days a week.
No none of the dogs are crated, I did try with Louie as i was trying to do everything differnt so he wouldnt end up like Daisy and Bentley..lol trying to do everything right and he did use his crate for a month or so and then he just stoped liking it and im not strong enough to listen to him cry and want out when the other dogs are playing around in front of him, so the crate training was done, I do still have the crate out in the living room so he is always welcome to go in but he doesnt,
Yes hubby does yell in a stern voice not really yell but try to redirect them but they know hes a push over and dont even listen to him at all, they listen to me better, as they dont beg from me or lick my face as they do him because he lets them do all of this , and then he complains when he dont want them to do it and they do it, i told him its his own fault, they dont know when hes in the mood for a bath..lol
It is alot harder having 3 dogs, BUt im sure i will get it one day- I do try all the tips and sujestions on here and do talk to hubby about everythign i do learn from this site and we do try and do everything i find out about. Its not that im asking questions and then not doing anything to correct their behavoir. Trust me i buy tons of books and do alot of reading on line to try to find ways to correct the things that go wrong here.
I didnt set out to find anther dog when i got Louie, I thought long and hard and i coudnt not take him when my aunt coudnt care for him because of her being sick at the time and i didnt think adding one more would be that big of a deal, And yup anther cat well Gabby is a kitten but anther animal i surly didnt want at all and i did think of ALL resorces first, animal control dont take cats and i was told that no one cares if a cat is homeless and wont help them, So i surly coudnt leave this starving kitten out side in this shed at work. Trust me i didnt want anther cat, Hubby wasnt to thrilled and i knew i had to many animals. But im not heartless i coudlnt leave her to starve out side. Trust me she was close to starving to death when i found her i have never seen a animal in my life so hungry for food and scarfing down chips so fast and the pericing cry and meow - broke my heart. But yes my house is full with pets but Louie and Gabby werent planned and i couldnt just leave them. I do have room in my house and all my animals are cared for and are spoiled rotton. Yes now i have 3 dogs 2 cats 1 rabbit 5 fish and 3 daughters and a hubby all under one roof. My husband does say we live in a zoo and some days it feels like it, but honestly i wouldnt know what to do with out any of my animals, they keep me sane and give me something to look forward to in the mornings- silly but true, i can be having a horrible day at work and so crabby and hating life and i come home and once i get threw the hectic coming home with the dogs attacking me for attention , im happy and more relaxed and they put a smile on my face- Ya to many pets but its funny that i wasnt at all a animal person and never was growing up and i was scared of dogs and cats , hated teh way they smelled the hair on your clothes everything about pets, untill i got Bentley and he changed everything, I look at all pets differntly now and i never thought i would feel so much love for dogs and cats, never- ppl that know me cant believe the pet person i am now knowing how i was about animals-
I think I may have provided this link before, but seriously, this is the BEST thing you could do for your dogs. It really makes it harder having three of them, but if you follow these rules, you WILL have better behaved dogs.
Also, consider purchasing "My Smart Puppy" written by the same authors. Even though yours aren't puppies anymore, the advise really applies to dogs of all ages, and also addresses some common behavior problems. I think it would be the best investment you could make. (well, along with 2 more crates...)
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.
To me it seems you are doing EVERYTHING we are suggesting to you already so your good to go. Keep it up and if things still arent changing, call a trainer. EVEN IF you have already put them through it they can go through it again and it WILL help in the long run!
"Yes when ppl do come over i use the spray bottle which was a maricle worker last thanksgiving as we have family over and all they do is bark so last thanksgiving it was way nice not having them go crazy, but now they are getting so use to the spray bottle i dont think its going to work like last year..lol"
Sounds like you use it too much? I know that if my dogs even see the spray bottle they stop what they are doing and do a sit. Even if I am not picking it up to use it on them. Maybe associate it with being calm instead of just getting sprayed and off they go.
"he did use his crate for a month or so and then he just stoped liking it and im not strong enough to listen to him cry and want out when the other dogs are playing around in front of him, so the crate training was done, I do still have the crate out in the living room so he is always welcome to go in but he doesnt,"
get a crate for ALL the dogs so they each have their own. Of course he is going to whine because the other dogs do not have to crate like he does.