Hi, I wanted to know, Is marking controlable. My 8 month old Alaskan malamute started marking a month ago.. shrubs..corners of our property etc...But now I notice, when he wakes up during the night in his crate crying and I take him outside to pee..he wants to go all over the property marking..It was easier 2 months ago when he would just squat and really go at once.
We installed a doggie door in our back door which leads to the fenced in kennel..He use to have the door going out to the balcony, where he'd lay down during the day on and off, but now it's winter, I've closed it off. I placed an artifical tree in front of it to block it off.. out of site out of mind.. well I noticed he went to lift his leg to mark it.. I yelled NO... I'm just worried that now he is starting to mark ..that he might start inside.. with the couch..bed..walls..doors.. etc.. ha.. JUST WONDERING if this is controlable.... I'd consider neutering IF there was a humane way of doing it... like when a man gets a vasectomy. Please don't take that wrong, but a vet UNFORTUNATELY,discribed how he'd neuter my dog.. and I said thanks anyway..but no thanks!
Redford, I'm not sure what your vet told you, but the last dog I had neutered you would never in a million years know that he had just had surgery. I picked him up the same day, and he was jumping and straining at the leash to get to me.What is inhumane about neutering a dog? They are under general anaesthetic, and don't feel a thing. As far as marking goes, you can control it, if you're on top of it, and always around. (in the house) Unfortunately once dogs start marking neutering sometimes won't stop it.
Like a man getting a vasectomy? And like a woman getting her tubes tied? Puh-leeeze!!!Neutering your dog can prevent him from getting testicular cancer later on. And it avoids 'accidents'. It's better to do it when they're young as they will recover faster and not suffer as much. Neutering is easier on a male dog than spaying is on a female dog. I'm not sure you can stop the marking though. Good luck with that!
In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semi human. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog. ~Edward Hoagland
When I picked up my puppy the breeder was going to have him neutered ahead of time..but her vet was out. So when I brought him for his check up to a vet in my area and mentioned it to the vet,and asked her if she used a laser like the one in buffalo does...she said and I'll quote this .."no, we just cut an opening, an incision, reach up in, yank out the testies, knot any and all bleeders then sew him back up." I know that terminology of YANK OUT..really turned my stomach.. She also said the bigger the dog is the harder it is.. REMEMBER my dog is an ALASKAN MALAMUTE.. with NO HEALTH problems..Live in the country with NO OTHER DOGS in the area for 12+miles or so. My breeder said since she couldn't get him fixed before I picked him up, she wanted me to wait until he was a year old.. she said this way he will get the proper bone structure and muscles structure he needs.. He will be JUST 8 months old on 11/27, and weighs around 83-90lbs. His temperment is great.. he is gentle and doesn't jump etc.. His only temperment is he is stubborn.. very very fussy for eatting. We were told that neutering will slow them down..less aggressive... which he doesn't have either one of those problems. And for birth control... there's no other dog around to worry about that. I just didn't know if that would stop the marking..or if I even need it stopped.. just does it outside..it just scared me when I saw him lifting his leg as if he planned to mark the decorated, lighted holiday tree in my livingroom. But I got on a site and they said they do that for a number or reasons and one is IF SOMETHING IS NEW...NEWLY PLACED. Thanks for your help.
Redford, I don't know of any breeder that would tell you to wait until the dog is at least a year old to spay/neuter especailly if she was going to do it before he left he place to begin with. I say make him the appt. And find another vet clinic if you can to do the procedure. Call around, alot of times they have spay/neuter clinics that you can get it done for a lot less cost. They do not just "yank them out" and tie the bleeders off. If they explained the situation this way to you, I would consider checking out different vet clinics anyways. To me this kind of explaination, even to someone who is not that knowledgeable on vet terms is uncalled for and would only make them scared and not get it done.
Please make the appointment for him, it will benefit him in the future and you would have less to worry about. May I ask where you live, maybe I could help you find a vet clinic that is better than this one.
I do know of some breeders, espeically of large breed dogs, that advise waiting until the dog is 1+ years old before neutering, because early neutering of male dogs tends to make them a little lighter framed than is normal. So that's not unusual.
That said, while your vet described it in such 'coarse' terms I'm sure they had no idea you'd find the description so frightening. No vet would ever 'yank them out'. It's a simple surgical procedure that requires skill, training and care, and of course the vet is going to be careful when neutering a dog. The vast majority of male dogs don't even notice the procedure has taken place.
And if you don't think you have any dogs for a 12+ mile radius around your house, you are living in a dream world, because unless you live on the moon, I'm willing to be that coyotes and stray dogs wander into your area more than you could possibly imagine. If coyotes live in downtown Chicago, I'd bet my bottom dollar that they live in your neck of the woods too (if you live in the US, of course). And coyotes have heat cycles just like dogs do. Dogs can smell female dogs in heat from more than 1/2 a mile away.
If your dog has even a minute amount of 'escape artist' in his bones, it will almost certainly get worse if he smells a female in heat. Marking, as someone said, is controllable in most dogs (though not all!) as long as you are keep up on it. Dogs tend to mark in places they've already gone, so if he gets started, his instinct will tell him to 'remark' those places in the house over and over again. Just don't let him get started.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
Redford, your vet could have used slightly more diplomatic phrasing, and believe me, there's no yanking going on. I think you should talk to another vet, about the procedure,and explain that the explanation you had was horrifying to you, and I'm sure you will get a totally different answer. What breed is your dog?
Minnyar, I am with you when you say about the breeders waiting until the dog is older than a year so that the bone structure has a chance to form properly. But the breeder was going to get it done before the dog left their care, how come it would have been okay for the breeder to alter the dog before it left their care, and not for the new owner to do it until one year plus?
Live in the adirondack mts, upper Warren County,NY. Yes with deer and coy dogs..which are on the opposite side of the 6foot high fenced in yard area. I beleave that the breeder didn't realize I would have reimbursed her for the neutering. She probably thought, wait I have so much already invested....time, care,food, shots and the CHIP implant. Maybe he was out,like she stated. She wanted to have him done, to make sure there wasn't any furry tailed alaskan malamute pups down the road up here $$$. He was from a breeder who raises SHOW Malamutes. It was her plans to keep him and his brother for show/stud. See they are the only two studs available from that blood line. It's a long story how I was able to purchase this puppy...all trained etc.. I had a warning forum listing on it... where I was almost conned into going to an apartment in NYC to pick up a puppy that DID NOT EXIST.. We caught on to the con 6 hrs before heading there. I also beleaved she thought, if something happened to his brother, she'd have him to use for studding. I am not to get the akc papers until he is neutered. To me it didn't matter.. papers or no papers... we just wanted a loving Alaskan Malamute since ours had just died sadly and my sons and I were devistated. My other Alaskan Malamute was almost 13 yrs old and was never neutered...but he was a total outside dog. I promised myself this would never ever happen again.. If we got any other dog...it would be part of the HOME LIFE INSIDE.
I dont know if its me, but that post made no sense to me.
From what I gather, the breeder is witholding the AKC papers until you neuter this dog. That means she WANTS it neutered, that doesn't mean she wants to use him as a stud. If she did, you'd have a co-ownership and would be showing him since she is a show breeder.
If you think your dog cant jump a 6 ft fence if he smells a female in heat, you are dead wrong. And maybe you havent had to deal with an intact male that smells a female in heat... its very annoying.
Not to mention intact males have nothing but hormones surging through them all the time telling them they should breed. He will be happier if you neuter him. And he will mark less. he may not stop all together, but it won't be as bad.
There was No puppy for sale... then when this happened to me the one owner desided to sell her share to me.. which was one of the two puppies they were raising to show/use for breeding. It all took place in a few days...so it was up in the air...no one wanted me to be able to breed and make money off this bloodline..and I just wanted a PET..and didn't care about breeding or papers..and still don't.. So real quick she thought about having it neutered...then when there probably wasn't an opening or time... told me to have it done when it's an adult and full grown.. WHICH DOES MAKE SENSE... I found out how hard it was to purchase this type/breed of dogs.. they are NOT common or I guess really desired...since they require allot of room, care and attention and are very strong and stubborn. (Just like my boys..ha ha LOL) I was just asking what to expect re: markings..since he just started and I've never had an INSIDE MALAMUTE. (Learned he must have a fan always blowing on him and heat turned off in my bedroom where he sleeps..so he doesn't pant) It's a learning experience haveing a furry sled dog living in the house! Thanks Pen2 for your PM it was very very NICE, KIND and HELPFUL!!!!!!!!!!
A simple out and out neuter is BEST, but if you really have a problem with it you can do a vesectomy, its more costly and dosen't have all of the benefits of a regular neuter.
Now onto the marking problem, there was a time in my life when I had a similar situation and I needed to teach a dog to go pee and empty his bladder, not just mark. I would take him outside and say "potty" or "Tink-Tinks" he would pee once... and then he had to go back into his crate, he learned quickly to empty his bladder or else be uncomfortable.
Of course there's no "I" in team... but hey look! There is an "I" in pie :)