Why would you think it is inbred? Being white has nothing to do with that. If it is truly albino, it is rare in a not necessarily good way. Most white boxers are really genetically overmarked fawns or brindles.
I bet the white boxer pup is not inbred, white is an unusual color and they will sometimes have trouble with the sun and burning or can be deaf. So, I would not be worried so much about the inbreeding as I would the trouble that is associated with most dogs who are an unusual white color. With samoyeds, american eskimos certain other breeds white is all right, but with most breeds white is not all right.
Being inbred is really not something to be overly concerned about with dogs. Very honestly, if a breeder is using cruddy lines, even if you outcross you're still going to have unhealthy, unattractive, defective puppies... You can "inbreed" and get perfectly healthy, well bred puppies - you just need to use two dogs from sound lines with all their necessary testing done!
Keep in mind - animal husbandry is not like people having kids. Humanizing breeding very rarely has good results...
I'm not sure the dog is albino either, I'm willing to bet it is just a plain ol' white boxer. A lot of dogs show up with red eyes in photos, the same way that humans due to the flash reflecting off of the retinas.
By 'humanizing breeding', I believe Abbylynne was saying you can't really apply the 'moral issues' of a human marrying and having children with a blood relative when breeding domesticated animals. Many domesticated animals, and not just dogs, but horses, cattle, swine, etc are inbred to some extent.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
Thanks Minn... that's basically what I meant. That, and, if we looked at breeding dogs the same way we look at people having kids we'd be basing matings on "chemistry" and whether the two "like each other" rather than on cross faulting to minimize health, temperament, and structural faults. It's just NOT the same thing... With people we rarely choose our mate based on whether both our families have a history of diabetes or hip problems. :) And if that were the case - I should be spayed and retired now!
As a breeder I don't like novices looking at a pedigree and saying "is this inbred". There is MUCH MUCH more to it for a responsible breeder - and it's a lot more science than "ewww - they're cousins!". :) And like I said - unknowledgeable breeders will have puppies with as many health problems in outcrossed breedings because when you start with low quality, unhealthy, defect prone lines... that's what your puppies are going to be no matter whether you outcross or inbred. The chances don't really increase...Two negatives don't make a positive with breeding dogs...
And defects are actually rarely a product of "inbreeding". It's just bad breeding in general usually. Though even the most carefully planned litters still occasionally have a puppy pop up with a problem.
"as a breeder" you don't like people asking questions and trying to learn? I'm adopting a dog in 2 years once I'm moved into my new house, I'm trying to get all of the information I can, since I read on a website on doberman's that if it's white, it's inbred which will lead to defects, deafness, etc. I was simply curious if it would be the cause of that boxer's coloring.
Hi Nicool, basically it's very difficult to look at a dog and definitely say "there's an inbred dog" Quite often some of the best looking dogs in the show world are very closely related in their parentage, and by some would be considerd 'inbred'. The best thing to do is to seek out some boxer breeders, and ask their opinions about white boxers in general, ask if there is the possibility of deafness, which can be tested by a BAER test, and go from there. You can certainly learn a lot in 2 years; so good for you for asking questions. Good luck when you finally do adopt a dog.
Hi, I am no breeder, but I have read a lot about dogs and I know that when you breed 2 flashy fawns(fawn with white collars) together you will have a very high chance of getting white boxers. Just because that puppy is white doesn't mean it is inbred. It is a color of the Boxer, but is not recognized by the AKC although you can register it with AKC, you can't show them and I would definitely not breed one. They do run a higher risk of being deaf or blind.
You really can't tell by the picture if it is healthy or not. I am concerned about the eye color though. It looks like it had blue eyes, but hard to tell if there is a camera flash. If it does have blue eyes I would be really weary of that in a Boxer. Also, I read that it only had one shot and it was 10 weeks old, should've done had 2 shots by now. Oh, and $800.00 for a white Boxer is ridiculous! I would hate to know I paid $800.00 for a pet and it go blind or deaf or worse both! This is just my opinion and hope that I didn't offend anyone!
it's important to mention that white boxers are just white dogs, but white dobermans would be more correctly refered to as albino dobermans. The albinism gene makes the dobermans far more at risk of certain health concerns like skin cancer and extreme photosensitivity.
The morons who had the first albino doberman show up in their litter repeatedly bred the poor female dog to her sire without any regard for her health, and then bred her offspring together repeatedly as well in order to produce as many dogs as possible that carried the recessive gene for albinism so they could get more money.
White boxers, on the other hand, can show up in by breeding of 'flashy' boxers, even unrelated ones.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
It wasn't so much the question - it was more that you automatically assumed it was "inbred" and that was the problem - whereas the more educated response would have been "is this badly bred"?
Though I can wholeheartedly understand why you would just assume that bad breeding means inbreeding. I'm not faulting you - and that probably came off as condescending and I apologize for that. It's more that, if you're dealing with a reputable breeder with any kind of a "program" you're going to see a lot of what is called "line breeding" - which would be a form of inbreeding technically. If it's done correctly you should end up with healthier dogs - not less healthy or more prone to defects.
And it was a good question - just an odd way of asking it. If the white boxer's are attractive for you - I think some of the other posters have hit on good insight for you - finding out how you get a white boxer is a good way to start your research!
I appreciate the replies. I'm not necessarily interested in getting a boxer, more interested in an Alaskan malamute, german shepherd, chihuahua, Catahoula leopard dog, Shiba Inu, Siberian Husky, Mastiff, Great Dane, Australian shepherd. It's a pretty big list that used to be a lot bigger, but I'm slowly narrowing down all of the breeds to decide which would really suit me and my lifestyle once I'm moved out and on my own.