Actually, I believe that nothing you said contradict my point. It still boils down to numbers.
You are making the supposition that you can’t selectively breed a dog responsibly if your intention is to make money. Your reasoning behind it is that when money is involved, greed gets in the way and makes it impossible to be picky, therefore quality suffers. That however implies that it is indeed about numbers. I guess your magic number for money to do it right is ≤0 and for litters is… what, 1-2 litters a year, if that? Either way, you still basically surmise the intent and pass judgment on a breeder base on numbers.
Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood.
This dog was the grandfather of four of my females.
I used one of his sons as a stud and kept the girls. Cost me an arm and a leg, but it was worth every penny. Money well spent. His owner probably did make more money on stud service then he did on his own litters. He had three beautiful studs from this line for me to chose from that he studded out, one for each color. He did work for it though. He was very active in the field scene and an avid hunter. Those dogs were more then just his money makers. They actually did what the breed was bred for. Still, he sure made a lot on them. Unfortunately, before I could get another one of my females to mate with another dog from this line, the breeder got in to a car accident on the way back from a show and lost a bunch of his best dogs in the resulted fire. Years of hard work and dreams went up in smoke.
Looking at the other dogs that were mention here and their offspring on the OFA site, many of the names looks familiar from my other dogs’ pedigrees. With labs being so popular, I find it interesting how so many of them can be traced back to so few. The only way to explain it is that they were studded out a lot more then anyone would like to admit, and from the looks of it, their owners were not very discriminating either. Those old geezers sure spread their seeds far and wide.
If I seem to have a superiority complex, it is because you make it so easy.
i understand labs are a very popular breed and the numbers produced each year are amazing to me. How discriminating could the stud dog's owner have been? there is more to breeding quality dogs than just sound hips. What about temperaments,thyroid, heart and other health conditions prevalent in labs and other breeds? I also would be concerned about recessive genes that this dog could be passing to future generations. Sounds like most of the breedings were outcrosses. if so then the bad stuff may not show up until second or third generation. This is when in breeding and tight line breeding are so important because any recessives would have already made an appearance.also the studs owner could have easily spent 20 to 30 thousand a year if this dog was campaigned in confirmation with a professional handler and heavyly advertised.