A couple months ago we started noticing my male corgi sctaching more than usual. Since then he has progressed to biting at his itchies and has had three hot spots in the past month. We keep up on his flea treaments through the winter, but the fleas were still bad in this area until feb., it just didn't get cold enough. Now we are sure he doesn't have any fleas so we are thinking it may not be a flea allergy. We have a vet appointment on Monday, but we are thinking it is probably food related. I've heard that most dog allergies are corn related, is that right? We feed him Authority brand Lamb and Rice, which doesn't have any corn products in it, but some of our treats are cheapy and so we've cut those out. Some people are telling us it might be the lamb or rice and so we should switch to a duck/venison/fish food with sweet potato as the main carb. We live in a smaller area so we don't have any specialty dog food stores - and we are on a limited budget and have 7 other animals to feed! At PetSmart the only combo they have like this is from Blue Buffalo (fish and sweet potato) and it still has rice in it. Anybody else try this? otherwise guess we'll have to order online. I guess I should wait and see what the vet says but I'm worry he may just put him on a pill and not really fix the issue. I don't really want to overload him on steroids or benedryl. Also, how do you all treat oht spots? We treat his with Sulfadene twice a day and cover it with neosporin, which heals them quickly and I thought quite nicely, until I saw under the new fur growing over his first one that the skin has changed to a greyish color. It did heal up nice and pink and we stopped treating it, but I guess its another thing we will have to ask the vet about. Thanks to whoever responds!
My catahoula leopard dog did that exact thing. Come to find out he had a wheat allergy. Does that food have any type of wheat. My animals are on california natural herring and sweet potato. They do wonderfully on it
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jgermansh - Thank you, I checked the bag and yes it does have wheat products in it. I thought I was doing good with that brand too, with no corn products. <sigh> Well, we'll see what the vet says. If he's wanting to do a daily pill, then I definately will switch to the fish and potato from blue buffalo (for $40 a 30lb bag)... I checked the ingredients online and it has no corn, wheat, soy, animal by-products, and its gluten free. I just don't want by baby on pills or itching any more.
First I'd be leary of the food simply because after searching for 15 min. I couldn't find a list of the ingredients. I finally found something that gave the first 10 ingredients one of which was corn glueten which is the residue left after cooking corn. Another thing I noticed is that the food has chicken liver in the first 10 ingredients. The three most common food allergies for dogs are chicken, beef, and corn. My suggestion would be to cut out all, and I mean all treats and try the blue buffalo(if that's all that's around, though personally I'm not crazy about it). After about a month start re-introducing treats little by little though I'd try to stay away from chicken.
lovinmy lucy - Thanks for your response! Im not sure which food you are talking about that has the corn gluten, I'm guessing the Authority brand which is the PetSmart brand of food. Its their knock-off version of premium dog foods that they don't carry, but they sell it a little cheaper, about $25 for a 30lb bag. I can post its ingrdients from the website for you:
You are right about the chicken though, I hadn't realized that it had chicken in it until now so thank you for that suggestion. Luckily it carries the "PetSmart Guarantee" so if I need to i can take the open bag back and they will give me credit toward the Blue Buffalo. Have you tried the Blue Buffalo? If so, can you tell me about your experience with it? Albie's allergies aside, I could tell a noticable difference when I switched him and my cats to the Authority brand, less shedding, shinier coats, more compact stool, eating less, less litterbox odor (really cool when you have 6 cats!). Also thank you for the advice about the treats. We really are trying to do so but its is so hard with the new girl in the house. We are begining to teach her various commands at home, sit, down, stay, leave it, etc. so we really have the treats out for a good portion of the day. And anyone who has ever owned a corgi could tell you how they could give you a look that convinces you they are starving no matter how much they have eaten. =) And while Dora is deciding whether or not she really wants the treat enough to sit, poor Albie is sitting, laying down, begging, rolling over, any trick he can think to get that treat, the big show-off! Thanks Again!
We have not figured out exactly what our dogs are allergic to in food but they have no trouble eating chicken/rice food and treats with chicken liver. Don't be quick to exclude a meat/grain combination based on someone else's dog's reaction because everybody's dogs are not allergic to the same things. Try a food with a single meat ingredient that does not include a particular grain for at least a week. For example feed chicken with no corn and if the dog still has symptoms feed chicken with no wheat and so on. Then go to a different meat with no corn, etc. If there is no change and the dog still shows allergy symptoms make the change to the next food gradually. Don't switch quickly or your dog could get an upset stomach. It should take at least two weeks to change from one food to another.
arachyd1- I have extensive experience with food allergies and was in now way promising that it was chicken but it is a proven fact that it is one of the top 3 food allergies. Also the it can take up to 6 weeks for the allergen to completly leave the system therefore just trying a food for a week wouldn't necessarily solve anything. Also corn is a filler and has no nutritional value.
Rainbow-Thank you so much for posting the ingredients. I was having a hard time finding them anywhere. I'd be wary of the Brewer's rice (another filler) and I don't like glueten in any way shape or form. Not to mention the beet pulp(sugar and filler) and the salt. I personally have never tried the Blue Buffalo but I know other's on here have. I want to say that it was involved in some type of recall. I would def. switch to a food that only has one meat sorce and fish would probably be best if you're worried it might be the lamb too. The Blue Buffalo got a good grade on Wiley's list I believe and is a high quality food so you should still see the same results (coat, poo, etc.) Hope I helped and if you have any more questions let me know!
I would recommend Eagle Pack Holistic Salmon , I think it's amazing and my dogs absolutely love it. It may seem pricey, but lookat the daily food allowance. For my dogs it's about 3/4 to a cup a day, and yours would probably be around a cup, plus a bit. I read the daily allowances on some of the foods, and a lot were 1and 1/2 cups (for my dogs.I find my dogs in excellent shape, and on the treat note, I have a rule about that. If you would'nt eat it your self, I would'nt feed it. My dogs favourite treats are apples, and cheese, and meat of any kind. There are also some pretty cool baked cookies on the net too. (recipes) Good luck.
Lovinmylucy, I'm not questioning your experience but I have experiences of my own. I can tell you that my dogs show allergy symptoms within hours of eating something they shouldn't and those symptoms disappear within 3 days of them stopping the food they are allergic to. If you've priced dog food lately you will notice that there are not a lot of options when you are trying to narrow down an allergen unless you want to pay a lot of money and chicken is not one of the very expensive ones so it is a good one to start with. My dogs won't touch lamb and processed beef is a definite no-no for them. I went through a few hundred dollars worth of dog food on one dog about 10 years ago trying to figure out what the problem was because the vet said no beef, chicken, pork or corn. The vet said allow 2 weeks with each food. The last thing we tried was chicken and voila her symptoms vanished. I could have saved the dog a lot of itchy time and a few hundred dollars if the vet had not made assumptions about the cause instead of telling me it was possible she could eat chicken-based food.
Another thing, just because corn is a filler doesn't necessarily make it bad. It is bad if your dog is allergic to it. If a dog is used to eating a certain amount and you take that away and give it only what is necessary you will cause that dog to feel like it never gets enough. Fillers are just that...they help the dog feel full. It is the same basic reasoning as to why people eat rice cakes and drink diet drinks and chew gum - so they aren't going around hungry all the time not because they need to eat rice cakes and drink diet drinks and chew gum. It is why if you feed a horse pelleted hay and grain only, which it can eat if a few minutes instead of baled hay and grain (and which supplies all the needed nutrition) you will end up with a neurotic horse with bad habits. Dogs need and enjoy having things to eat and chew for mental/emotional reasons.
Thanks to everybody for their advice! We go to the vet tomorrow. Albie's latest spot has cleared up and one we found that was just starting also has cleared up before he got the chance to really chew it open. We haven't seen any new ones in the past week and 1/2, so maybe this was being cause by the nasty cheap treats - that we can fix. He does seem to be less itchy, but that could be wishful thinking.
Well we went to the vet today, but as the spot had cleared there wasn't much to see but a few bald spots. The vet said we must be taking good care of them to heal so nicely so quickly. Basically she told us the same thing about the food situation, but also warned it may be grass, or something in the house, so the food may not fix it either. She recommended us to buy chlorpheniramine 4 mg tablets and give him 1/2 tablet twice a day, and try to wean him off later after his itching seems to lessen. Also gave us a topical spray in case he has another flare up, with antibiotics and a steroid, but the steroid sholdn't enter his bloodstream, so I feel better about that.
arachyd1 Corn is bad and unnecessary no matter what you say. Personally I'd rather my dog get "full" on healthy stuff that benefits them. Not only is corn a filler and a lot of dogs are allergic to it, it's also very high in Phosphorus thus making it more difficult to absorb calcium not to mention it's not really digestible, think about it after we eat it it looks the same coming out as it did going in(not to be graphic). and FYI to everyone corn is a man made vegetable that the indians created, fun little fact there.
natural balance has a new food out ..... venison and potato limited ingredient diets. it is grain free. you may want to try that. my mothers one dog has food allergies to chicken and rice. we are currently trying this food out as it is MUCH cheaper than the limited ingredient diet she gets from her vet. hopefully it will work for her.
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