I also dont need a degree in nutrition to know what makes my dogs look, act, and poop healthy. Chicken Soup, made by Diamond by the way does all 3. Anything with corn and dont stand behind them as you might get blasted and dont forget the over the nose air filter cause its gonna stink. Anything that stinks like that on the way out cant be good for man or beast. Purina is not the only food with DHA in it anymore, other brands have jumped on that bandwagon a long time ago and Diamond is one of them. Every dog is different, some can tolerate corn, some cant. Some dont tolerate the holisitc diets as well. Even if your dog can tolerate corn I still wouldnt recomend Ol'Roy. Purina like Diamond has a very wide range of quality foods, some very poor and some are very good and most Purina products are found in grocery stores which for the savvy consumer can be a good thing. If Evo and the other "natural" diets work for those who use it then great for them and if PurinaOne works for another hurray for them too at least they found something that works for them and fits their needs. I am not for or against most brands of food, what ever works for you. By the way Purina does make the best horse feeds available hands down.
I started my dogs (Shih-Tzu) on Avoderm their attitude changed for the better and theyno longer have allgerey problems, Ol'Roy,Purina most morseal's gave the allergey reactions and loss of energy. Just my opion.
No that's junk too. I'm sorry but I feel that if it can be found at Wal-Mart, Target, grocery store, etc.. then it is not quality dog food. I too agree that if you feel you absolutely MUST buy your food from Wal-Mart then at least get the Purina One, which is not really too cheap by the way ($27 where I live.) Just a little more money and you can get better. Pedigree is no better than Ol Roy if you ask me. When you use those lower quality dog foods with corn fillers you will notice that there is far more stool output from your dog. That can only mean that obviously the dog could not make any use of those ingredients. If they can't digest it, they pass it. Pretty simple. Stool clean up alone is enough to make me pay extra. There is a rather new food out called "Taste of the Wild". My dogs liked the Bison/Venison formula but not too crazy for the Salmon. I believe Diamond makes it. Rather pricey though. I think I paid $11 for 5 pound bags, tried all 3 formulas. I wonder why Wal-Mart and the like don't carry any high end dog foods at all?
I feed my dog Maxximum lamb and rice formula. The first ingredient is lamb. No corn no soy. No chicken byproduct. It ranks high on dog food charts. The chicken formula I do not use, it has corn in it. It has never been recalled. Diamond has just recently been recalled and canindae reccently switched there formula to some unfriendly ingredients. My dogs coat is shiny nice healthy poops about 2 a day. Only thing I wash it came in a bigger bag. 20 pounds only. I stumbled across it when I first got my dog. The other owner gave me a half bag of ol roy. Thanks alot. My vet called me up and told me it was recalled. So that night I went to walmart after work being the only place open 24 hours and was reading the back of every brand then I found this maxximum lamb and rice. It sounded good and switched it to my dog with no transistion because my vet said it was better than continuing on the other food. Rocco had no problems no diarehea nothing. He filled out nicely in about 2-3 weeks and is very healthy.
This to the people who says that Walmart or grocery stores dog foods are garbage. As long as you read the ingredients, and your dog has no food allergies, I think you are being responsible. My puppy and our adult cats eat Purina. All are very healthy. I am a single parent and do not have the money to buy expensive animal food. I love our pets and resent the accusations that I am not a good pet owner because I can't afford something more expensive.
Try the maxximum lamb and rice formula. Sold at walmart my dog loves it, no corn or soy. never recalled. ranks high in in dog food scales. My dogs coat is so shiny and soft. I have a Bull mastiff and he is very healthy. When I got him the owner gave me half a bag of ol roy then when I took him to the vet he informed me it was recalled. He told me to switch ( I was going to anyway)so I had to switch cold turkey not gradually the way one would normally do and no problems. His stool is nice and healthy. Not a million in the lawn. lol He even gained about 2 pounds already. Rocco was a little skinny. Now he is filling out nicely. He is more energetic and nice white teeth. Its a great product.
Yes, all dogs are healthy...until they're not. Dogs don't need grains (rice is a grain), it is a filler, it provides no nutritional benefit. If you do your research you'll see that grains are tied to cancer in dogs (corn and wheat more so than others).
For example, a person can smoke and smoke and smoke for years and be healthy...until they're not. It's the same type of thing, your dog may have a genetic predisposition to a type of cancer whose catalyst happens to be grain. You don't have to feed it, it's not nutritionally necessary, so why take the risk?
The thing is those "cost friendly" foods actually... aren't. You feed WAY more kibble than you actually need to. Most of the people who feed that quality food also have an obscenely overweight dog (ask your vet...). You think you're saving money... but you're not.
I fed Iams, Science Diet, Purina One... for years. I THOUGHT my dogs were healthy. Then I switched to a better quality food and you should have seen the difference - from teeth to coat to weight management.
I agree... you think they are healthy, until they aren't.
And I don't think it makes you an awful pet owner if you feed cheap food... I do think it makes you uneducated. You're not saving money. You're feeding twice as much food as you need to each day. Which means you could be spending twice as much per bag, feeding half as much kibble, and feeding a better food. You just haven't done your homework. Those cheap foods are like feeding your children McDonald's three meals a day. Sure, they CAN live on it... but can they be healthy doing it? Nope.
And to the poster ranting about the wonders of corn and how great the big commercial brands are... have you ever fed your own pets a better quality food for 6+ months? You'd see a difference. You'd be shocked. You'd also be surprised by how little research and work companies like Iams and Science Diet have done regarding canine nutrition. It wouldn't serve them well to make better food. Right now they are making good money tricking people like you into buying twice as much kibble as you need to... FILLER has no purpose.
Corn is not "Bad" for dogs. It just has very little nutritional value. By-Products? Why are you feeding your pet trash? You must LOVE them if you think that the garbage they wouldn't opt to eat unless they were starving is what they need? Most of us that talk about dog food have done hundreds of hours of food research. We're not regurgitating something someone else told us.
I will never subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality - which is ultimately what the big name companies do. There have been huge advancements made in canine nutrition in the last 10 years and the big companies aren't keeping up. Most have JUST recently started adding more "holisitic" products to their line and only because they are being forced out of the market by companies making an effort to take care of the pet owner and their loved ones. If those in the medical profession subscribed to the "If it ain't broke" mentality there would be a lot of dead people not saved by new drugs, proceedures, etc...
And it isn't dog food companies that resulted in the recalls. It was low grade ingredients... corn, soy, wheat, glutens... if you don't feed a food with those things in it, you're not going to have a problem. For example... Diamond foods that were recalled - didn't include their higher quality Chicken Soup line because it is Corn and Gluten free... Did I mention the problem with the Diamond recall was CORN... hmmm...
In a rush this morning, so didn't read the entire thread, if this is a repeat, sorry..
When you feed a good quality food vs. garbage, not only are you prolonging your dog's life and making him healthier in the process, it works out to about the same cost. Since the junk food is mostly (unhealthy) "fillers" they eat more. The high quality kibble requires about half the amount. Feeding 2 large dogs myself, I spend about 45-50$ a month on high quality food.
"Some days you're the dog; some days you're the hydrant". author unknown