Hi everyone!! I'm having the hardest time ever deciding on what's best for my 12 year old black lab female. We have been to the vet numerous times and they still aren't sure on everything that is wrong with her? She's had blood test done, x-ray's (which showed bladder stones) and a urinalysis. They were concerned because of Specfic Gravity was very low at 1.002 which could indicate possible kidney failure. But her blood test came back pretty normal? A few issues they said, but nothing major? I am very confused. It's also cost me a lot of money so far and without any treatment or a for sure answer to what is wrong with her. They say the major concern is her bladder stones. She does have trouble urinating when she is outside, she strains all the time and there is blood in her urine. They say with bladder stones she will have trouble urinating, but I tried to explain that when she is in the house she pees very large amounts, everywhere!! She even pees in her sleep or while laying down. The second she lays down, there's a wet spot underneath her. My house is now covered in dog pee, and I don't say a word to her or punish her for it. I know it's not her fault as she is getting old. I love her so much, I have had her since a pup and have one her sons too who is 11 and very healthy. My issue is that the only way to get rid of her bladder stones I was told is surgery. And with a baby on the way and a 4 year old also, I can't afford to get this pricey $1000 surgery along with all the medications afterwards with no garantee they say that it will fix the problem or if they will come back. And in my heart I know it's more than just the bladder stones, because of her peeing constintly in the house. She pees about 10 times aday sometime more in the house. She is at the point where she won't even ask for the door anymore or when she does, I have a minute or two to let her out or she will pee where she is! I really don't know what to do here! Is it time for me to put her down? Just the thought breaks my heart and I cry over it everyday. She seems to be in pain sometimes too, she is a very tough dog though, so it's sometimes hard to tell if she is in pain. She does not seem like herself though, but she still eats and drinks ok... although she does drink a lot of water! Please help, what should I do?
***Edited By: Mel0722 on 3/26/2008 6:41:26 PM*** Reason: typo
She is definately a member of our family... I had her for 12 years and love her so much It's really breaking my heart, but I don't want her to suffer either and I don't want to have to put her down either! It seems like it's getting worse everyday! She's not interacting with us anymore like she used to! That's why I don't know what to do? I have to think of her but can't bear the thought of bringing her to be put down
I'm sorry about your dog, and your heartbreak. Have you talked to the vet about making payments for this surgery? Get her a pair of XX large doggie panties and line it with a diaper, to save your floors a bit. There is lazer surgery for this condition. Please try to find a vet who will accommodate your financial situation. The sooner the better. Good luck, and let us know how you make out.
I tried everything for my vet to take payments and he won't Here in Ontario, well in my city anyway, they want the payment up front before they do anything! It's really not fair! I tried to get the pet insurance too, and they won't touch me because of her age and condition! Even to put her down costs a lot They want to charge me $250 just to put her down and to be able to keep her remains! Which I will for sure do, she's worth every penny, even to get her surgery, I will do anything, but I'm scared that it will not solve my problem! The vet even told me I may spend all this money and afterwards may have to pay to get her put down afterall It's really scary, I pray that this does not happen to my other dog as well since he's getting up there in age also! It's really not fair how much the costs are these days to take care of a pet!
Really? OMG, I'm going to the wrong vet!! Is this in the States or in Canada... cuz I'm willing to drive anywhere if it means saving that kind of money! Not on putting her to sleep, but for the surgery! They want $1000 for the surgery here plus all the cost of medication and everything else!
Mel...I live in Ontario too and have a great vet who is the cheapestest in the area. I have found that the bigger the city you are in (ie Toronto, or Ottawa) the more expensive the vet bill is. Try to find a country located vet in a small town. Look around at vet schools as well. They often do surgeries for cost as part of trianing program. There is the university of Guelph, as well as the U. of Montreal. I am not sure what part of Ont your in, but those are two options that shouldn't be too far a drive for you. I am so sorry to hear you are going through this. It is overwhelming to have to make decisions like these in time of such emotion. The fact is that of course she is a member of your family, but is it always the right thing to let an animal suffer just to have them around a bit longer, or is it time? Only you can be the judge of that, and it will probably be the toughest decision you will ever make. Good luck.
Thanks so much Stacey That is really good to know! I'm pretty close to Guelph, so it wouldn't be a problem to go there! I will definately look into it! And yes, this will be the hardest decision ever! I'm having a hard time, because the last thing I want is for her to suffer! And don't want to keep her around just because it's easier for me She is such a good dog, and never had any problems with her and I feel so bad for her! I know she hates the fact that she is peeing on the floor! Thanks again for your help
Well, my Kasey girl is not getting any better And my search for a vet is not going very well either!! They all want the money up front and they all tell me it's going to be between $800 - $1000 + medications and follow up visits! So I went back to her vet last night, because my dog is now trembling and shaking, it's like she's scared and in pain... she keeps crying and it's really breaking my heart. But I had a long talk with her vet, and he suggested that I put her down Only because she is 12 years old and a purebred, and he says either way I only have a couple years with her left if that and if she gets through the surgery ok. I really don't know what to do!! Has anyone ever been through this before? What should I do? What would you do?
Make a list of the top 5 things your dog loves to do most in life. As he/she can no longer do or enjoy that, check it off. You will soon know when it is time.
If they are suffering and nothing more can be done to make them comfortable, its the worst decision ever (I have had to make the same one recently myself) then it is the humane thing to do to relieve the pain.
People are like slinky's, not really good for much. But its still fun to push them down the stairs.
My heart goes out to you. Not an easy decision to make at all. We had to decide to put our 10 year old lab down this past summer due to seizures. We finally decided it was time when she was no longer able to do anything without being on a leash..ANY exercise caused her to have seizures that lasted around 4 hours. It was the hardest decision someone can make with their pets. I agree with some of the others....If she is not able to do the things in life she enjoys or is she is in so much pain then your decision is made. That is only if there is no way for the surgery to be done. I wish there were better ways to handle the financial burden of these pricey surgeries. My vet allowed payment options for all the treatments my dog had. I am truely blessed to have a vet in the field for helping animals...Best wishes to you and your girl..
Melo, I forgot to say, to try the University of Guelph as well. I'm in Manitoba, and the vets here care more about the dog, than they do the money. I know that's not much consolation, because of where you are, however I think your poor old dog is in big trouble, and if she's crying, that would be the limit for me. I'm sorry about your dog, and here's a big(((HUG))) for you both.
Thank you so much everyone for all your help! It's really nice to see animal lovers out there! I really appreciate all of your replies I called vets all over Ontario... and I must say, our vets here are not very fair They will not take payments at all and I also called the University of Guelph vet and they say it's a referal only vet! They don't give many options where your pet is concerned! They care more about the money here then the animal it's really not fair! I also called around for prices on putting a dog to sleep, and it's really crazy the prices they charge! I thought the $250 was a high price too... it only gets more expensive as I call! One vet said it would be $566! How crazy is that! Those prices are for cremation with the ashes returned to me! I really couldn't believe it! And yes, her crying is the limit for me too - I can't take it I have never cried so much in my life! I look at her and cry So it looks like my only option is to put her down! I try to think about the fact that she lived a very good and healthy 12 years and that she will be happier going to doggy heaven! I have to put my feelings aside, because I want to keep her forever, both my dogs are the best dogs ever! I never had to go through this before, so I'm having a really hard time dealing with it... and being 8 months pregnant doesn't help it either! My emotions are going wild already, lol! Even my other dog tries to comfort her when she cries, it's so sad! My other dog is 10 now which is my female's son. He tries everything to make her feel better! But it looks like my only option now is to say goodbye to her! This will be the hardest thing I ever had to do in my whole life! Thanks again everyone for replying!! (((HUGS))) to everyone who replied!
I certainly feel for you. I'm facing the same issue with my 12 yr. old Golden. He was diagnosed with Cancer 2 1/2 yrs. ago, and up until recently, he has done wonderfully. His back legs are so weak though and he has started urinating in his sleep, with a horrendous odor. We purchased the doggie diaper, which to my surprise actually does work very well.
My husband built a ramp for him at our backdoor, just like a wheelchair ramp (which really confused the nosey neighbors, lol) which has worked really well for the last few months, but now he has a really hard time even climbing that.
His tumor is now the size of a large orange and has developed a large reddish tip to it. It acutually looks like he's grown a large breast, with the red tip looking like a nipple.
His eating is the same, everything in site, lol. He does seem to whine a lot more though. I give him asprin every day to help with the pain.
My fear is that we aren't realizing how much pain he is in. We said from the beginning that we would never let him suffer, but I'm wondering if we are blind to it.
I had 2 different friends at different times make comments to me this weekend, that they felt so sorry for him and hated to see him have to move. One friend said it was breaking her heart.
So, I'm really confused. I don't want him here if he's in pain. We planned out 2 1/2 yrs. ago what we would do if the time came. We are fortunate enough to live in an area where the vet will come to our home to put him down (because he HATES going to the vet, and shakes sooo bad) and I said I would not let his last moments be at the place he hated the most. Then we will bury him in the backyard.
I really feel for you and understand how difficult this decision is. I've always said money was no object when it comes to Simba, but I would also not go for a $1000 surgery if all the signs were already pointing to the fact that his time was most likely limited anyway.
I like the post above that said to write down the top five favorite things your dog enjoys doing and then count how many of those things he's actually doing....That was a lightbulb moment for me. Although, Simba has always pretty much enjoyed just laying at my side to make him happy.
Good luck to you. I hope you'll let us know what you decide. And any advice that any of you could share for me would be greatly appreciated.