Ok the pups are 2 weeks old and when my fiance called yesterday he said to de-worm them and the mom with the stuff in the cupboard 1cc for every 5lbs. Ok now we have 2 things in there. One is Panacure c liquid and the other is Pyrental. Ok I called the vet and asked the lady who answers the phones and she said she thinks that the Panacure is to strong and to use Nemex which is just diluted pyrantel. I told her I would be in tommorow to pick up some Nemex as I am surely not gonna dilute it myself but she was not shure of all this info she gave me and the doctor was in surgery. Does anyone know if I can use the Panacure as that treats more kinds of worms.Also I am confused as to which one of the dewormers also has the flea and tick controll in it.
Neither one of those does fleas and ticks, that one will have to be given when they are much older. I have never had any issues with Panacur, our vet says its quite safe, just as safe as pyrantel but that is just my experience. Panacur would have to be given for 3 days in a row. The worms that Pyrantel doesnt get are potentially more dangerous in tiny puppies than Panacurs neglible stronger effect. My opinion.
o-yea I didnt want to give the one with flea and tick controll to the pups but the older dogs. I was gonna use the Panacure on the pups but didnt know if I should because the lady said she is not shure.I am concerned about whip worms only because we had a dog that had them a couple months ago and we had to do all the dogs but they all use the same grounds for bathroom breaks. I want to use the panacure if it is safe.
Immunique, how much do the puppies weigh? Which dog had whipworms? Did you have a fecal test done on your Mom of this litter? I would use the Panacur, being very careful with the measurement, as you know. Strongid does'nt always work as well. Panacur tastes absolutely gross; so you will have to tip the puppy's head a little, and hold it there, after putting the Panacur on the back of it's tongue.
I forgot to say, you can use a topical medication called Revolution later, to rid them of fleas ticks and tapeworms, if they happen to be lurking around. Another reason I asked you which dog had whipworms, is because they shed the eggs in 3 months.
It wasnt the mom dog it was a male dog named Bear however all my dogs were de wormed with the panacure because we roatate the roamer dog which is the dog that roams the house each day and they all use the same set of bowls in the kitchen and my fiance is convinced they can share the worms from bowls and also from the tie out for potty time so anyhow we bought 1 quart of panacure from the vet and he did it 3 days in a row 3 different times 2 weeks apart.We still have alot left and the pups all weigh between 6 and 8 pounds and the moms fecal was tested when she was pregnant and she was good with no worms.My fiance called tonight and said he does use the panacure on the pups which is fine but I am just nervouse because I already overdosed Bear on flea stuff since he has been gone.
You must be absolutely nuts about cleaning up any dog poop in your tie out area. The dog with whipworms would have excreted them onto the ground.I would'nt be so worried about the feeding bowls. Do you have a syringe with calibrations in cc's? What did you use for Bear, that you could overdose him, Ivermectin? The best thing you could do next time is use a pre-measured dose of Revolution, or Advantix. If you are having trouble, or you're not sure with the measurement of the Panacur, come back on and ask. The pups are not 10 pounds yet; so you err on the side of caution, and follow this chart. 1.0 cc 5 pound pup. 1.2 cc 6 pound " 1.4 cc 7 pound " 1.6 cc 8 pound " 1.8 cc 9 pound " 2.0 cc 10 pound pup.
I'm sure you are aware that ml's are the same as cc's, not trying to make you feel stupid...many people get those 2 confused. I hope you get the little guys to take the medicine. What ever you do, if the pup vomits, or manages to spit up the medicine, don't repeat the dose. Good luck, and let us know how you make out.
Yep I know that cc and ml are the same and also I knew that the panacure was one cc for every 5 lbs but I am glad you posted that chart because I was a little unsure of the measurments for 6,7,and 8. Thank you so much. I was gonna call the vet in the morning and ask that exact question so you must have been reading my mind.
I overdosed Bear on flea spray it was Hartz flea and tick. It was horrible. I sprayed him a normal amount and about an hour later his legs wouldnt work and he was flopping around the family room. The vet stayed on the phone with me forever and had me give him peroxide and wash him with Dawn dish soap. The next morning we went to the vet and he said yep it was a pesticide overdose.Needless to say I have not sprayed any of the dogs since then.
I clean the poop up from the tie out also my fiance got a rotatiller and dug it all up so we should be good to go I just dont know how Bear got them in the first place so thats what worries me.
A word of advice (which I'm sure you're getting sick of, by now). I would personally never use a Hartz product. There are safe meds, as I mentioned before, pre measured, that you just pour onto the dog, between the shoulder blades.Advantix, Revolution, being 2. Unfortunately, unless you live in an extremely dry area, your tilling the whipworms into the ground will only help them. The eggs can survive for 5 years in the ground, especially if it's moist. The way they are transmitted is from a dog's feces, infected with whipworms, being ingested by your dog, or brought in on his feet. If you have a particularly small toilet area, it will make it very difficult to get rid of them. If you have a bigger area, I would partition off the infected area completely. However, if Bear has been all over your yard, you will have a little bit more of a problem getting rid of the whipworms. The other miserable piece of info I have for you, is that you have to do at least 4 fecal floats, a week apart, to determine their presence in your dog, since the eggs hatch at different times. Sorry to be a massive wet blanket, but you need to know these things. The only known way to get rid of whipworms is to worm the infected dog once a month, and remove the soil in the affected area, right down below the soil line, and replace it with fine gravel, or another material that won't hurt the dog's feet. So, that's enough out of me for the day, I hope you get along well with those puppies, and let us know if you have any further questions.
When I said he dug it up with a rotatiller he shoveled out a bunch then rotatilled then shoveled that out then bought some sand type stuff that actually looks darker than sand from Lowes and put it down. Yeah I know about the drops between the shoulder blades because my fiance let me know all about it trust me. I just bought the Hartz stuff one day because for some reason I thought I needed it especially for Bear since he is all white and I always think I see a flea on him and also ticks were horrible in my yard and it said I could spray the tick and wait 5-10 minutes and it would be dead.I only gave one poop sample(for Strawberry) to the vet but that was about 4 months after Bear had the whip worms and everyone was treated, He never told me to bring him more.Is there something I can put down in my yard for the worms that will kill them and also the ticks that is safe for dogs to be around? Bear did have alot of poop samples at the vet before and after the 3 times of 3 days each on panacure but not any other dogs he only asked for one from each of the others.Im gonna call him tomorrow and ask why.I bet the vet wishes my fiance would come home real soon, hes probably sick of me lol.