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catlover
Posted: 10:02:52 PM 4/16/2008
Wrap your tiny little brain around these statistics before advising people NOT to spay/neuter their pets...

HSUS Pet Overpopulation Estimates


Number of cats and dogs entering shelters each year:
6-8 million (HSUS estimate)

Number of cats and dogs euthanized by shelters each year:
3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

Number of cats and dogs adopted from shelters each year:
3-4 million (HSUS estimate)

Number of cats and dogs reclaimed by owners from shelters each year:
Between 600,000 and 750,000 -- 30% of dogs and 2-5% of cats entering shelters (HSUS estimate)

Number of animal shelters in the United States:
Between 4,000 and 6,000 (HSUS estimate)

Percentage of dogs in shelters who are purebred:
25% (HSUS estimate)

Average number of litters a fertile cat can produce in one year: 3

Average number of kittens in a feline litter: 4-6

Average number of litters a fertile dog can produce in one year: 2

Average number of puppies in a canine litter: 6-10

Approximately 6,000,000 to 8,000,000 dogs and cats are placed in animal shelters annually and 50% to 75% of them are euthanized, generally in three to seven days. In many communities, the percentage may be as high as 90% of all animals.


The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.

Andy Rooney
Posted: 10:23:39 PM 4/17/2008
You talking to me?
Your statistics are pretty convincing, i could agree with you right now but you still havint convinced me yet. Anyway if you did convince me that I was wrong I would have to admit that I was wrong all along in front of everydody else and i would have to bare the shame.
ruffian
Posted: 10:42:13 PM 4/17/2008
catlover it is hard to have an intelligent conversation with someone who is obviously unarmed.
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catlover
Posted: 6:47:59 AM 4/18/2008
Very true, Ruffian.

CatClyde-everyone else already KNOWS you are wrong. Shouldn't that give you a hint?
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.

Andy Rooney
Posted: 5:01:19 PM 4/18/2008
You don't have to admit you are wrong, you have every right to have your opinion. You just need to base your opinions on information and facts instead of blatantly ignorant personal beliefs and logic that makes no sense. Your logic that pets would go extinct if everyone spays or neuters them is absurd. By that logic humans would go extinct as well because of the millions of people that choose not to have children. And your belief that it is wrong to prevent a pet's natural instinct by altering their body is fine, but I would like to hear another alternative to preventing pet pregnancy. Not to mention that spaying and neutering offers proven health benefits to pets. If you needed your tonsils taken out to make the quality of your life better and healthier, would that be wrong? You just need educate yourself before coming to conclusions and infuriating the informed majority that that believe otherwise because you insist that your view is right. Several of your posts make it obvious that spaying and neutering pets is something you angrily disagree with. But if the majority of people in an area believe in it and do it out of love for their pets then how could you think they would not react to you in a negative way? THINK ABOUT IT!

P.S. You could still use some help on your grammar and spelling as well. I mean nobody is perfect but jeez, we practically have to decipher your posts.
Posted: 6:52:51 PM 4/18/2008
Sorry about my grammer, I am usually in a hurry to write a post and so that kinda makes me carless. Well back to the subject, I shoulda tolled you one of my best reasons I think that animals shouldnt be 'spayed', We need to let as many animal souls on the earth as possible so they can enjoy having a body, That is the reason earth is here intnt it? How would you like it if you were a cat and you looked down on earth from heaven and wished that you could get a body?
Pen2
Posted: 7:32:55 PM 4/18/2008
CatClyde, your reasoning is difficult to understand. What are you talking about? Why would a cat look down from heaven and wish they had a body? If cats go to heaven after they die, does'nt that mean they've had a body already?
catlover
Posted: 7:55:42 PM 4/18/2008

WHAT?!!! Do you want to say that in English this time?
The average dog is a nicer person than the average person.

Andy Rooney
Drogheda Bullmastiff
Posted: 8:50:27 PM 4/18/2008
are you sniffing aerosols or using hallucinogens or just from another universe? Those are the only reasons I can think of to explain such ridiculous statements.
Posted: 12:18:43 PM 4/19/2008
I give up. I have tried to use logic and understanding with you CatClyde, but you are officially an idiot. You sound like a kid that just wants to be a rebel. Why would a cat look down from heaven and want a body here on earth when the Christian faith clearly teaches that heaven is a wonderful paradise, much better than earth? Honestly I am athiest (please don't judge me based on this, I am still a good person even though I chose not to believe in one supreme being and I respect all religions) and so once again I must disagree with you. And to your own beliefs, try studying the literature of your own faith and tell me where does it imply any soul would ever look down from heaven and wish for a body on earth. Isn't heaven suppose to be the reward after having the body on earth? Again, I find your statement to be extremely ignorant.
MaxandAllie
Posted: 9:56:26 AM 4/20/2008
Ya never know Peaches- maybe CatClyde is Hindu or a Scientologist? They believe that souls wait in heaven for another body to "manifest". But I seriously doubt that CatClyde's ignorance is caused by religion.
Posted: 11:36:16 AM 4/20/2008
Very true MaxandAllie, and I would never intentionally suggest anyone's ignorance is caused by religion. This seems to be a case where CatClyde is simply uneducated and chooses to continue to be so. Every time we try to talk some sense into him he just comes up with some other "belief" as to why he is right. I think the only thing he really believes is that he is right, no matter how ignorant his views are. I really think he's grasping at straws here, desperately trying to validate his self-worth with futile efforts to make himself feel smarter than everyone else. If he is right and everyone else is wrong, then he must be smart and important. I seriously don't think he will ever wake up and smell the kitty chow. I pity him.
Posted: 12:25:45 PM 4/20/2008
hi there:

It is scary to think of the number of pet out there and how many one unneutered/unspayed dog or cat can produce. That really means more unwanted animals arriving at the shelter with no home, no love or attention perhaps sick simply because people don't do what would help to reduce this happening.

Cat can produce alot faster than dogs and spaying them can prevent their quality of life diminishing with cancer. They get it the same as humans.

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Posted: 8:05:28 PM 4/20/2008
You guys clearly did NOT get the point. The cat looking down from heaven part was an EXAMPLE. I meant the cats that wernt born yet, because I believe that animals that are already born wont get born again. sure it is wonderfull to be in heaven (By the way, i am a christian) but it is also wonderfull to have a body, and the only way to get a body is to come on earth and get it, that is acording to my belief.

PS. Please take no offence aithiests, I am not TRYING to offend you anyway.
Posted: 8:23:22 PM 4/20/2008
Does anyone own a dictionary? NEUTERED is the correct spelling.
I suggest you reread your messages and consult a dictionary if you really want your opinions to be taken seriously.
This comment was really intended for the previous post only....
imunique
Posted: 10:21:57 PM 4/20/2008
sparkles- catclyde is a child who is hard headed about altering animals and what post were you talking about beacause I dont see where the previouse poster even said neutered.If you read thru previouse posts you will see that catclyde has a strong oppinion on altering animals and also probably spells at his grade level which I am assuming is elementry school of some sort.
Pen2
Posted: 10:28:17 PM 4/20/2008
CatClyde, when you've gone to a few shelters, and seen how many cats they kill, because they don't have room, or money to feed them all, come back and say you don't believe in neutering and spaying then. Another thing you might want to ckeck into is the feral cat population of most cities.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted: 11:36:29 PM 4/20/2008
I do not drink coffee and neither does my family. COULD YOU PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT MY GRAMMER IT IS STARTING TO TICK ME OFF RIGHT NOW. I believe that animals should not be neutered because we need as many cat spirits to have bodys as possible, SO WHY DONT YOU GUYS START RESPECTING MY BELIEF. Hmmmmmmmmmmm?
ruffian
Posted: 11:43:44 PM 4/20/2008
Because it is ridicules????
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Posted: 11:47:35 AM 4/21/2008
Because your belief is cruel to cats. Okay, so lets bring as many cat souls onto the earth as possible so they can all have bodies. Now, most of those cat bodies will not have enough to eat, will not get proper medical care or vaccines, and will die either of disease, starvation, accidents (I can't even tell you how many wild kitties I see squished on the road every day )or put to sleep in overcrowed shelters. Is that any way to allow cats to live their lives? Fighting for survival and dying as victims of their circumstances? Your belief is to overpopulate the planet with animals that would have a poor quality of life. Shame on you for being so thoughless toward our four-legged friends.

Oh, and try not to use words you can't spell, it makes you look stupid. So if you want us to even begin to take you seriously, you REALLY need to work on your spelling and grammar. I'm not trying to tick you off, but it is the truth. No one will take you seriously if you cant put your ideas across in a somewhat intelligent format.
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