Hello, I posted on the general topics about Lola having her liter. Her first one was still born, no green stuff like i read about and seen in pictures, I think the head was just stuck in the canal to long? but anyways she did have 3 pups with the help of the vet giving her a shot to get the labor going again.
She is doing fine, feeding the pups and is with them and only comes out to go potty and back in the bedroom she goes.
i called the vet this morning to find out if her panting still is normal and they said yes. I understand she went threw alot but i wasnt sure if this was and is normal. I did find a few things about panting after whelping and of coarse making me worried about preclampscia, but the vet said she was fine. Not even seeing her today just yesterday while in labor.
She is eating and drinking, drinking a hole bowl at a time. maybe is she just warm with the heating pad and i have the furance temp set higher then normal to keep my bedroom warm for the puppies.
When should i start to worry? well stop worring and know that it is normal? Of coarse im thinking something is wrong but the vet assured me this was and is normal.
SHe barks at the bedroom door for me to let her out , she comes out and i coax her to go out side for a few minutes and then shes right back to the door wanting in. shes been coming out once every hour or two and i do go in and check on her and the pups often to see how they are.
the pups are great and feeding well, feel warm. she will stop panting and rest with them but when she comes out here she is panting and i offer water, she wasnt drinking it but then did drink the hole bowl.
any one know when i should start to worry and when this isnt just normal panting after whelping? she had her last puppy about 8 last night and she had a xray so i know there isnt any more pup in there
thanks again for the time to help and answer my questions Sunny
My bitch stopped panting heavy about 2hrs or so after the last pup. It is 70 degrees here, so I dont have the heating pad or anything for them. She is also a mini aussie, so she is keeping the pups warm. The first couple of days she really wouldn't go outside for anything, but now the pups are 5days old and see will go outside and stay out for about 10mins or so. She loves my attention, so I go in the bedroom and just sit with her. If your dog was always around you, she is probably alittle lonely and wants your attention. I sit in the bedroom about an hour or so before I go to bed. It makes Angel happy. She also gets to play ball when she is outside.
As far as the water problem, do you leave it near the box? I have an x-pen around the whelping box so Angel can get out when she wants. I have her food and water in there also. It allows her to eat and drink when she wants. Every breed can be alittle different, so keep checking with your vet, and when in doubt get a second opinion from another vet.
It just doesnt feel right to me. She is drinking TONS of water and peeing every 15 minutes it seems and can barly make it to the door to get out to go, shes had a few accidents and i know it isnt shes waiting to long because she just went out 10 min before that. She is still panting some what, i guess not as bad as yesterday, it isnt a constant pant but she just looks uncomfortable and the heavy panting did stop after the pups but she pants with tounge hanging out like she would if she was hot , but with the tons of water she is drinking which shes never drank this much water before and could be normal but i just have this feeling something isnt right. But im also a worry wart, like rushing her to the vets office when she was in labor, i just needed to wait longer but thought something was wrong, but did feel better knowing the vet said she was fine and healthy
I will call my vet again today and give them a update on her and see if they think this is still normal, she drinks a full bowl of water at a time, which is very odd to me to be that thirsty, she hasnt eaten anything this morning so far, i made her boiled chicken breast and white rice last night ( a big batch for a few days) but she isnt interested in it at all.
Im going to see if i can find out any info on line about panting and being thirsty to see if there is anything i can find out and what i should do- thanks again
Perhaps she is hot. You really don't need the heating pad and the furnace cranked up. Pretty soon the puppies will let you know they're too hot as well. What's your thermostat set at? I'm sure you have the heating pad on low, and have it well covered,
Yes i have the heating pad set on low and its only in half the crate, the other half just has a fur pad- The furance is only set at 68 degrees. It is pretty warm in my bedroom with the door shut all the time and im sure the heating pad really warms up the crate,
So i dont need the heating pad? I also have them in front of the window in my room when the sun comes in and that to also warms them up. at night i pull the crate away from the window and move it back away from the window.
I can tell when they are cool to the touch, and move them to the heating pad side of the crate, or snuggle them in with mom.
I read tho that the room temp is suppose to be like 80 degrees The portable crate which im using for them is like a tent material and seems to stay warm and muggy some days. I do keep the end open so she can come and go when she wants and also the top i have unzipped but put a thin blanket over it so that the heat will stay in, there are little mess windows at the top of the sides on the crate for ventilation. But im thinking you are right maybe she is just to warm?
Should i move Lola and the puppies to a differnt whelping box that i have? ( i had 3 differnt ones set up for her to pick) should i go with a bigger one with no top all together? should i just keep the blanket off the top of the crate? SHe does have plenty of room in this crate she is in now its cozy. you could fit 3 of her in there comfortably. should she have more room then this? maybe even 4 but 3.5 of her for sure.
This morning i noticed the stains on the bedding i have in there and going to wash and replace the bedding. I read that i shouldnt be using anything bulky or that a pup could get under? like no blankets that they could suffacate under them? even to me a nice blanket would be cozy and they could snuggle in there but then again i see the point that maybe Lola wouldnt know they were there and sit on them or walk on them there is a plastic pad on the floor that is fitted for the portable crate. then on that i have the heating pad which is in a thermal pillow case thought this would be warmer then a silky pillow case. and then on the other half i have that fur crate pad . which they seem to like and really nuzzle in does this seem ok? now im wondering if i have it to warm in there and she does always have her head hanging out of the door way of the crate. and she doenst seem to pant as much . just breaths heavy. yesterday it was really warm and nice out side and i did crack the bedroom window to give her some fresh air and did check to make sure the puppys wernt cold in anyway,
Chance is really bugging her now and i hate closing her in the bedroom when it seems this morning when i left it open she wanst so ansty and could come and go out of the bedroom but she oesnt like Chnace sitting there by the crate, this seems to be my biggest problem right now figuring out how to keep him quiet and to leave her alone, he wimpers when he cant get to her. UGHHHHH sorry for the run on long questions but i really wish i had some one that i could get some info fromto know if im doing this right and i can read all day long which i do and each diffent site you read tells you to do it diffent. UGHH
so then i start second guessing myself.. again thanks as always- Sunny
Hi, what part of the country do you live in Sunnydaze? Most dams are very defensive of their pups, especially a first litter. Just let her have her privacy for a couple of weeks, and then as it gets warmer you can move her to a bigger box, in a different location. 68 degrees is really not hot, and if she can get away from the heating pad (which I would leave there), she'll be fine. All dams drink and eat till you'd think they'd pop, but they need the water, and the extra calories. What makes you worry about pre-eclampsia? Has she had any muscle rigidity, tremors, or seizures? Believe me, you'd know it if you saw it. I would expect that you are feeding her a good food, and I always supplement my dams, not absolutely necessary, but I don't like to see the dog get skinny after whelping. If you are giving her a little extra, include some plain yoghurt and cottage cheese, if she likes it. The main thing for you to do now is STOP WORRYING.. At 2 weeks, you worm them, and every 2 weeks therafter until 8 weeks, unless you happen to have a bad infestation. As far as their blankets go, I put the smooth but soft microfibre ones in my whelping boxes, so they don't get buried. and when they get older, I switch it up to old bedspreads, and the like.At that time, I usually put the whole lot of them in a small kiddy pool, with their bed on one side, and the rest covered in newspaper. So as far as I can see, you're doing everything right. Puppies are warm, they are eating well, and doing fine. Is the dam cleaning them yet?