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My bitch is weaning 9 pups but she is thin and all her fur is falling out!
hair loss and very thin after having pups
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Posted: 6:55:25 AM 6/4/2008
My labrador had pups 5 weeks ago but is very thin and all her furr is falling out in handfulls! she has massive bald patches over her. We took her to the vet and she said its normal! but i dont agree. if it carrys on a few more day she will have totally no hair left!!!!! She is chewing on the end off her tail but not really scratching anywhere else. WE are worryed about her and also when people come to see the pups they will have a fit if they see her!! no one will want to buy any of the pups, i no i wouldnt buy one as she looks so bad. She is on beta puppy food and eats 3 big bowls a day so i really dont understand whats happing to her. if anyone has any advice it would really help! Thanks
imunique
Posted: 9:04:15 AM 6/4/2008
It is sometimes normal for the fur to fall out it called "blowing coat" You should not be worried that people will not want to buy the pups because of how she looks but instead be worried about her health if she is that thin.When my dog was nursing her pups I fed brown rice and chicken in with her food and she looked great the whole time.Some dogs do get a little thin after having pups but not as you are sounding. Try to supplement with some more protien like rice and chicken or talk to your vet and they can reccomend a good food for her.Has the mom and pups been de-wormed yet? Worms could be a problem too.
part4m
Posted: 9:28:24 AM 6/4/2008
I had a Siberian Husky give birth at the end of November and all of her fur fell out also. Siberian Huskies do not lose their fur in the winter so I felt that it was kind of odd that she did at that time. She did eventually get her winter fur back just in time for her to lose it again in the spring time.
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tatersmom
Posted: 9:42:47 AM 6/4/2008
It is quite normal for a bitch to blow her coat after having pups. Some start earlier than others. I think the time of year has a little bit of an affect on it. Some at 5 weeks and some dont blow the coat until the pups are 8 or 9 weeks old. Since it is spring going into summer she is probably just blowing on the early side.

The thin part would bother me more than anything.
Pen2
Posted: 10:16:10 AM 6/4/2008
If you've wormed everybody, start feeding the pups soaked dry food, with some homemade formula mixed in it. I agree with the former poster too,feed the dam extra brown rice, chicken, eggs, cottage cheese, and plain yoghurt.
Posted: 10:54:15 AM 6/4/2008
Thanks for the advice! As i stated on my earlier post : I am very worried about her, and im NOT just worried about selling her pups! the vet said it could be due to stress about having so many pups to look after so not finding new homes for them is realistically a worry as if we cant find new homes for them due to the way sacha looks it will cause her longer stress! If i could rehome them for free to stop sachas furr falling out , i would do it to make her well again! I hate it when poeple pick out comments and turn them into somthink they are NOT!
I will now look up Blowing out your coat online to see what info I can find in it. Also sacha is on the best food quality there is for a feeding mother and she eats plenty so the vet advised me to keep her on what food she ids on and not to mess with it as it will upset her tummy.
Pen2
Posted: 12:07:51 PM 6/4/2008
Nate, you can still supplement her diet. With that many pups, I most definitely would be because of the chance of eclampsia, plus I don't like my bitches to get thin, at all. Just my opinion.
Posted: 1:02:43 PM 6/4/2008
Ok will get more advice on what to do. before she had the pups she was a very lean muscley dog and very fit. We took her to the vets for a check up before we bread her and said then that she looked thinner then other dogs but the vet said its her breed type- tall lean and muscley and that she wasnt no where near under weight just a very fit dog, which he said was nice to see as most the labs are over feed and fat! She didnt have much of a apitite then either. But ow she eats 3 - 4 large bowls of large breed beta puppy food and seems to me to be just to thin for my liking. Its hard thou as im worried but when the vet saw her yesterday he just looked her over and said its normal to loss so much hair and that its also normal for feeding bitches to lose alot of weight! And too me it just seems so wrong to have a hairless dog!, the weight seems to make sense as she is feeding alot of pups and she has always been lean.Anyway ive booked her back in at the vets again as im not convinced its just losing all her hair as she has had pups. She has been flea, and wormed through her pregancy and has no signs off worms.She has been chewing on the end of her tail again today which is now bleeding, could this be a sign of stress? At the moment the pups are eating 3 meals a day with extra puppy milk made to try and give her a break but at the mom the pups sre running around her kennel and run as they can climb out of the welping box now. Is this ok? should the mother have her own space away from the pups now they are bigger? Sacha dose get 3 breaks of about a hour or so from the pups when we clean out the kennle and the run and she spends some time with us & the kids.We breed sach for the kid and family to have a nice exsperiance about life not for the money and it seems to have goneall wrong for sacha! the last thing i wanted was for her to end up bald! Saying that she has been a great mum up till last week when i think she has stopped feeding ( they have very big sharp teeth! and i think she is trying to wean them) but she still cleans up after them!
Pen2
Posted: 1:29:13 PM 6/4/2008
Your vet may be right in saying a nursing dog will lose weight, but as a breeder, I don't want that to happen, therefore I supplement the dam's diets. If the puppies have sharp little teeth, start letting her away from them, if she wants to go. She's fed 9 pups for 5 weeks, that's a huge load on her, with no supplementation.I would start feeding her extra now, and you'll see the difference.
Drogheda Bullmastiff
Posted: 9:36:39 AM 6/5/2008
if you do breed her again and she has such a large litter, then I would feed half the pups with a bottle at each feeding so they aren't such a drain on the mother. I have always done this with my Bullmastiff bitches if they have large litters and my girls don't become too thin and haggard looking. Giving the dam extra high quality food in addition to her kibble is always a good idea when feeding a large litter.i do understand your concerns that potential buyers might think she wasn't well cared for if she looks too thin and her coat looks bad.
Posted: 10:20:40 AM 6/5/2008
it is not all that un common to lose thire coat. but i think you should get a secound oppion from another vet, are you giving the mama vitamins ?
Posted: 12:52:58 PM 6/5/2008
Between feeding the pups during pregnancy and now after birthing chances her body's resources are depleted. She desperately needs vitamin, mineal and oil supplements. Do that and she will respond quickly.

You might consider changing diet and products from vitality science
Pen2
Posted: 2:32:31 PM 6/5/2008
Nate, the food you are feeding is most definely not the best. I would slowly change your dam to a better food. The 29% protein content is too high, the growth will put strain on their joints, and can cause problems. Your food is given in large daily amounts, which once again, points out the quality of the food.
I've done the math, I'll post it when I get a comparison.
imunique
Posted: 2:44:53 PM 6/5/2008
Pen a while ago when i was switching food a breeder from Ohio told me to look for the highest protien and fat and recommended a food that was 29/17 or something like that for protien and fat.So protien is not good for them in a large amount.I keep getting conflicting info.What do you reccomend for apbt's on the protien and fat level?
Pen2
Posted: 4:54:02 PM 6/5/2008
Immunique, I won't speak for the APBT as a whole, because I don't breed them. When I had my Rotties, the vet told me to take a middle of the road approach with the protein, and the fat, because the higher protein and fat could harm their joints, in the long run. I know there are a few APBT breeders on here, I'm sure they can give you better advice.
Posted: 11:58:17 PM 6/5/2008
I'll chime in with the others. It is totally normal for a dog to blow its coat when it has a litter. Every dog doesn't do it but a lot do. From what I understand it is not from stress it is from hormone changes. If you regularly pet your dog (and a lab tolerates nothing less) you will notice that her coat became much softer when she became pregnant. The hormone changes caused it and now that she is no longer pregnant her coat will change again. Don't worry, it will grow back good as new. Feed her as much as she needs to stay in good shape. Feed her the best quality food you can because nursing a lot of pups takes a lot of nutrition. She may not be willing to eat enough of what she was used to eating-might get full to easily. A more nutritious food would be needed in that case to put the weight back on her.
ummmm....let me get back to you on that
sue
Posted: 7:20:51 AM 6/7/2008
What is the dogs environment like?
Is it quiet and stress free, chewing the tail kind of sounds like stress.
I'm sure to some extent its normal to have the coat thin out, but I work in a clinic and I've never seen a huge hair loss.
The Veterinarian has a Pediatric diet, give it a try.
Ask the Veterinarian about the DAP sprays, it may help her to relax.
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abbylynne
Posted: 1:07:20 AM 6/8/2008
I know with Shelties they start to blow out coat right about the time they whelp their puppies. The hair on the belly usually falls out on it's own (most of it anyway) to allow for free access to the nipples. The blowing of the coat in a "wild" situation would be for the mother to make a nest for the babies. It's pretty normal for "shedding breeds" - which would clearly include labs - to blow coat while nursing.

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Posted: 5:18:13 PM 6/29/2008
since sach has weaned her pups she has put her weight back on and her fur is falling out alot less now! Thanks for the advice.And as for the "I dont belive in breeding dogs" comment id like to say we are only breeding sach this one time and all thou its a good idea to go to a dog rehoming center if you would like a dog , its not always the best idea mainly if you have children,I would never get a dog from a home incase it turned on my children, most are put there for a reason! I think if you have a dog around children then you should have it from a pup to get a good relationship between the two and so you can bulid trust to have it around your children which you simply cant do if its from a dog home. I think people with out children would be best for rehoming theys dogs.
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