Nate, do not take anything HorseMama has to say, to heart. She has been spamming the board with her Peta pushing bs, copied and pasted from their website. My female frenchie only had three puppies and she is also blowing her coat. She is balding more on her temples, although she still has hair there. She is not thin at all though and eats well. I have been feeding her a mixture of hamburger and rice and adding a little bit of cottage cheese to it. She wolfs it down like she is starving, but i free feed, so she always has access to the kibble. She will allow the pups to nurse, but i dont let them. They have been eating on their own for awhile now and do not need to nurse. I feel for you having nine pups. These guys are nine weeks now and fast as lightning. When they are in play mode, although cute to watch, i have to keep a constant eye on them so they do not get sidetracked onto things they can not have. You will really have your hands full with 9 ! lol
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Nate, I took in a rescue springer on his death bed a while back and was not even thinking about the fact that I had a female cocker at home. Naturally, I quickly learned that although he barely had life in him...he mustered up enough to do the deed. So, I ended up with puppies. Chloe got pretty thin RIGHT after she had them. She was huge fat, then she had those babies and a few days later I was scared because of how much weight had dropped off. I went to the feed store and started mixing some milk replacer in her food with vanilla yogurt and an egg twice a day. I also starting giving her a vitamin. Not sure the name of it at this point, but, for nursing dogs it was two tablets for every 20 pounds. She took them like a treat. Not sure that I did the recommended thing, but, after about a week she starting filling back out. I have one puppy left and he is nine weeks old yesterday and mama is looking like she did pre-pregnancy.
She lost a ton of hair. I didn't know that it was called anything...I had attributed it to the drastic weight loss and lack of nurishment in the days before and after she birthed. She is still loosing hair, but, at this point, it is just resembling heavy shedding. No more big chunks falling out.
just joined while looking for info on blowing coats and came across this post. I know it is very normal for a bitch to loose fur during nursing her pups. i normaly start to wean at 3 weeks and remove mum completly by 5 weeks as not to put to much strain on mum. We have never really had much hair loss and i hope that its due to me taking mum away fairly early on. I am please Sacha is getting better, stress can be a horrible thing for nursing mums and i used a DAP diffuser for one of mine due to stress. I want to ask about the protein in food for mum and pups as i have been told to look for the puppy food with the most meat content and it should be the first thing on the ingredients.. food with wheat etc (cereal) at the start is not as good... is this true... My girls have rice/pasta/chicken/boiled mince in with puppy food from 4 weeks of pregnancy up to when i wean them from pups and never seem to loose to much weight after birth and during feeding. i read so much info on the correct way to look after mum and pups but there seems to be so many diffirent views.
Horse momma Nate did not ask for political commentary. Not everyone wants a shelter dog, most clients of breeders want to be sure of the environment the pup or dog was raised in. Alot of pet overpopulation has nothing to do with most of us breeders here on TP. It is a lack of responsibility on owners who let their intact pets run loose. Nate- you can and should suppliment your lactating mom with the foods already suggested by others. I would add my own of evaporated milk and eggs, INCLUDING THE SHELL, which is one of the best sources of calcium. Good luck and don't worry what clients think if the puppies are fat and healthy, they will understand the hormonal changes in mom.
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I had something similar happen before. And I agree with a few previous posts, we gave her chicken and rice and vegetables, hamburger in warm chicken broth mixed in with everymeal, continued with an egg every few days and within 2 weeks she had already started gaining her weight back to keep up with nursing. It happened within first week of having the babies so we immediately started with extras but gaining weight takes a lot more time than loosing it. Now with every litter we automatically give our girl extras and never had a problem since.
My fiancee and I both had dogs when we met 2 years ago. My male shepard was and still is unfixed. I beleive that my male dogs grow stronger bonds and seem to mature better unfixed untill about 3 or 4. He is so nice and zero aggresion issues unlike most of my other large beed unfixed males in the past. So I will take some falt for tge following issues. That being said, my fiance's female blue toughy pittbull is almost 3. She waited to fix her because she was so pretty and our friends blue boy was also gorgeous. We are pure bred owners but have saved and found homes for over 30 kill shelter dogs from puppies to old dogs....we took them all!!!! We kept one of the bunch, kentucky who we saved from kentucky.:)
So here we are, my fiance, 8yr old son, barn cat and three dogs. So we fixed kentucky and just seperated my separd "scout" and "delila" our blue while she was in heat. Having never had puppies we pondered and debated wich dog to fix so to keep the line alive. Shepards so smart and protective or our sexy slobby blue. Well we waited to long and with a large painful yelp from acrossed the house we raced to find our dogs locked. That was a first!!! Months later and 20 lbs +, Delilah gave birth to 12 puppies of wich we saved half. From resesitation to tieing torn tubes we did well.
Delilah is a lazy momma and would have let them starve. So we took turns in groups of 6 ,girls first. We are now 5 weeks deep and Delilah is over it. We have battled with our girl to keep em healthy but she is looking rough. She gave birth and immediately looked SUPER THIN. We feed her and the puppies Taste of the Wild...puppy chix and lamb rice for momma. She still is very thin and still has gigantic utters. Her hair is now falling out and she has bloody scabs on her joints, back, ears, head and neck. She is a white and blue spotted blue and has naturally pink lips etc. All that is bright red and looks soar. She seems happy and not in pain. She has always been a lounger especially around heat and that never changed. So what do we do and should we worry? Pups are huge and healthy aside from ddiarrhea briefly from accidental food change from house sitter two weeks ago. The od We have tried lots of stuff. The old pumkin, baby rice and similac diet straightened them right out. Momma needs help and money is tight especially with puppy shots and dewormer for all dogs coming up. ANY THOUGHTS!!!!! P.S. AFTER ALL THE SCARES AND DISCOMFORT FOR ALL PARTIES...PETS INCLUDED. WE ARE AGAINST MOST BEEDING AND WOULD NEVER PUT ANY OF OUR DOGS THROUGH IT. WE WILL BUY PURE OR NOT IN THE FUTURE BUT NEVER WILL IT BE OUR FAMILY AGAIN.