For those that don't know me or may not remember me, I own 7 Siberian Huskies that we show and sled with. I also volunteer at my local shelter doing temperament assessments and basic obedience training.
I joined a yahoo list on RAW feeding, and they weren't very nice to me! LOL! So... I'm hoping you guys will help me learn.... nicely! Go easy on an old senior member! LOL!
We feed deer meat with some kibble and I've started feeding turkey necks 1-2 times a week to help keep their teeth clean. I did make vegetable/fish/beef patties (kind of like Satin Balls), but the RAW nazis didn't like that much. I've heard that it is better to start RAW cold turkey, but I'm still having some reservations. Any tips or advice?
Thanks for going easy on me, I may know my Ethology, but I'm a newbie when it comes to RAW!
Now.... let the learning begin! And please no RAW nazis!
I think I belong to the same yahoo Raw list. They certainly don't pull punches, do they?
I feed completely raw, but mostly ground (a no-no on the yahoo list). I feel that, yes, RMB's are probably the best for teeth-cleaning purposes, but I don't want the mess on his feet, the floor/carpet, the mat, etc., so I feed ground...chicken (with bone), turkey (with bone), venison, beef/organs, etc. And supplements seem to be another no-no, but I do squirt my boy's supper with salmon oil just about every day. He also gets raw eggs and cheese occasionally.
Magnum was raw fed 'til he was one year old, when I bought him and was horrified at feeding him raw. His breeder, reluctantly, switched him to kibble and he ate that for about a year (although doing so, understandably, nullified the health part of the contract), while I researched dog diets and Basenji health problems. I eventually came to the conclusion that raw was best for Basenjis, and he's been on raw ever since.
Luckily, here in MN, there are a few places to get bulk wholesale raw, and with only one dog, it's fairly inexpensive. Now feeding 7 Siberian Huskies. Phew! But I would think you could do it for about the same price as a [good] kibble, as long as you have the freezer space (like, say, 5 freezers, LOL!).
I feel that ANY raw that a dog gets instead of kibble can only be a good thing. My Magnum is a healthy, happy, bright-eyed boy.
Long time no hear! The only thing I would be at all concerned about is the venison having worms. Then again I'm sure you take that into account, and worm your dogs accordingly. I think it's great that they are on a raw diet.I would also add in seasonal veggies, when you can, as well as a bit of fruit. I bet their teeth are just sparkling white. Nice to hear from you.
I think we have decided to do a part RAW diet. I don't really agree with the camp that thinks veggies are evil. After all, what does a wild canine eat first when they have a kill? The gut! That is where canines get their "ruffage". Then they move on to the meat.
So.... we'll prob. do some deer meat (prob. cooked to kill any parasites) mixed with kibble, an occasional turkey neck, and some veggie patties. I agree, I think something is better than nothing!
I'm not sure why there would be an objection to feeding some vegetable matter to your dogs, they are after all, omniverous. If I were you, I would feed your dogs what you want to, after researching the nutritional value, and tell the nay-sayers to go take a long walk off a short pier. You know your dogs best.
***Edited By: Pen2 on 8/23/2008 9:18:08 PM*** Reason: spelling
I totally agree Pen! I think the most common misconception with the "die-hards" is that dogs are strictly carnivores. As you said, this is not true. They might even be described as scavengers at times!
I was pretty taken aback when the yahoo list went postal on me. I can understand if I got on there pretending to know it all, but I plainly stated I was on there to ask questions and learn. Not sure if I'll go back there again! I guess I did get into it with someone on this forum when I first joined, but geez!!!
this seems to be quite an emotive subject with lots of differing opinions. I switched to raw for both of my dogs although I agree it can be difficult to overcome the idea of feeding raw to start with. There appears to be two schools of thought about whether dogs are true carnivores or omnivores, with emphasis on the dentistry of dogs being representative of a true carnivore. I tried both a mix of meat and veg and then switched to 100% meat and bone which I have decided to stick with. I agree with Pen, as a dog owner, once you have researched its nutritional value its pretty much a personal choice what exact foods you choose to feed your dogs.
If you've been breeding and showing dogs for long enough, you figure out what is best for your dogs, sometimes through trial and error. I went to the same rabid raw yahoo site, and actually laughed. Don't let anyone tell you some stupid little rule, especially if you've already been doing the opposite, and it works for your dogs. If they are happy, healthy as a horse, bright eyed, full of piss and vinegar, and sport the shiniest coats ever, you're not going too far wrong.