Ok, Me and my brother got a pit puppy from someone 2 weeks ago and as of right now they are almost 9 weeks old.
Took them to the vet this past monday for their first shots because the breeder person we got them from never got their shots. When we took them to the vet we wrote on the paper of info for them that they are "American Red Nosed Pit Bulls" ok? Clearly stated what the breeder told us they were.
Now, The vet turned around and said that the puppys are "American Staffordshire Terriors".
I AM SO CONFUSED! Are they pits or staff terriors?!? The breeder said they were a mix of 2 different pit bull terriors... but the vet says something else. I seen the parents to the puppys when I got there and they were both full blooded pit bulls.
This is a good thing for me because I live in a trailer park and is not alowed to have pits... but still the same, are they pits or Staff terriors???
The more I read about these 2 pups, the more my heart sinks. Why, in God's name would you buy 2 dogs like this, and stuff them in a trailer park? They have no room to run and play, and you are already having trouble because there are 2 of them . At this age, I find it hard to believe that any vet would look at them, and insist they are American Staffordshire Terriers. The APBT was pretty much the same breed, 60 years ago, and then people started breeding them for different purposes.If you research the APBT and the American Staffordshire Terrier, you will see what I'm talking about. Perhaps the vet is trying to save your dogs by calling them Staffy's, on paper. What do you mean by the parents were bred from 2 different kinds of APBT? There are no different kinds, only lines, and different phenotypes. Why did you not do your research on this? I find your whole approach to the ownership of these dogs careless and irresponsible, and I fear for their future.
There isn't much as far as looks. You can get pits that look like am staffs, and am staffs that look like pits. If your trailer parks bans pits, am staffs are included. am staffs are reg. with AKC, and pits are UKC. I have always found that am staffs can be a bit more sound minded, but I have not met as may show pits. That is about it. as far as I know
Honestly, if you live in a community with a ban, if moving somewhere without a ban is not an option, I would start looking for a GOOD home right now, while they are puppies. It is really difficult to find a good loving home for adults.
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Since you have no papers,call them American staffordshire terriers.People will not be as scared of your dogs this way. The Am staff and APBT are the same breed,just a bit difference in looks. Here is a great site to learn about the history. http://www.realpitbull.com/history.html
Sadly I gather this was not a very good breeder or they first off would know the proper name of the breed they were producing and secondly would not have placed a pup with someone without having made sure the up was going to be in a safe place free of breed restrictions.
If you weren't given papers and went to a BYB chances are you may not even have a purebred dog. At the vet I would have them put mixed breed on the papers if you do not have a pedigree.
WOW-- I dont know what to say. You intentionally got not 1 but 2 dogs you are not allowed to have where you live. ( I am trying hard to bite my tounge) What will happen when they get taken from you because you can not have them (or need them) do you know? Probably not!!! They will go to a shelter and more than likely be KILLED. Does that make you feel good? But yet all you are is concerned abot the name of the breed you got. They were not mixed with 2 different breeds of a pit bull!!! That would be 2 different bloodlines. If you didnt get a registered dog which obviously you didnt or you could just read the papers and know what kind of dog you got, then the breeder probably has no clue what bloodlines the parents are from. An APBT (american pit bull terrier) has different standards than an Am.Staff. An Am.Staff has more specific standards to fit the category of an AM.Staff. An APBT has a wider range of standards like the red nose. According to the AKC standards an Am.Staff should have a black nose. An APBT can have red or black and still fit in the standards just fine as an APBT.
I feel like I am waisting my time so I will stop now. If you cared you would not have gotten the dogs when you knew you couldnt have them, you would of researched, you would know what kind of dog you had, you would not expect it to come fully trained and be perfect after one week of owning it, you would know an 8 week old puppy takes more than one week. If you knew none of this and didnt care about this stuff then you are one of the people that help give the breed a bad name because you are an irresponsible owner with no knowledge of the breed.
Ruffian, if this person had done the least bit of research she would know the history of the APBT,but she has not, as well as the Am Staff. Ignorance is bliss don't they say? Well for these 2 pups it definitely is not.
Ooops sorry for the typo and unfinished part in my original post I was rushing when I wrote it. I fixed it now :). Yes, APBT = American Pit Bull Terrier and AmStaff or AST = American Staffordshire Terrier
What a frustrating thread! I find the whole thing sad! BYBs are the worst and I have read one too many threads along these lines or worse over the years.
***Edited By: PatchOPits on 9/12/2008 5:35:49 PM*** Reason: typo
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