I'd like to get your opinions on this issue: my 5-month puppy had a small bout of diarrhea last week. It wasn't very bad, mainly runny stool, but what alarmed me was that I found blood in the stool once, then twice, and that's when we went to the vet (this was on Saturday). They did a blood test on her, a fecal test, and she got an injection to rehydrate her (the vet said she was dehydrated, but she really only had two, maybe three, runny bowel movements the day before, but ok). The blood test did not show any signs of infection or anything else, but the vet recommended putting her on a 7-day course of antibotics, which she said were specific for the GI system. She also suggested that I could switch her temporarily to a canned food that they sell, which is more bland, and low residue. After talking about that, I realized this is the same as feeding her rice and ground beef, and I told her I would prefer to do that. Anyway... the fecal test, we just found out yesterday, revealed she has a mild case of coccidia, so we'll start medication for that today. In the end, the conclusion was that she probably ate something at the park (which she does tend to do, and sometimes I can't get to her fast enough to remove things from her). So I hope that will solve the diarrhea problem (note: total bill was $320, plus medicine I will have to buy today). So this leads to my second issue: now the vet tells me that the blood test from Saturday shows high levels of calcium and phosphorous, and she'd like to talk to me about her diet. I have been feeding her Wellness for Puppy since late July. Prior to that the vet had put her on Hill's Diet P/D, because she was eating her poop, and she thought this food would help. Well...that didn't help, which I don't hold against her because apparently the poop-eating is a mystery, nobody knows why it happens. But after talking to other people, doing research on this site and others, and talking to the breeder, I started to look at the contents of the Hills P/D diet food, and I didn't like the high content of corn, the byproducts, etc. so I changed her to Wellness. But now the vet tried to sell me her P/D product again. I explained to her why I didn't like it, and asked for other recommendations.... all she came up with was Iams! I'm surprised, because Iams is almost the same crappy content as P/D. I asked her what the risks were in the high calcium and phosphorous, and she said in the short term, not many, but in the long run, it could affect her growth (I'm guessing higher calcium means less growth?). I'm just slightly annoyed now, because I'm getting the feeling that this vet is all about money, and I can't trust her advice anymore! When we were there on Sat. for the diarrhea, she even wanted to do xrays on her. I don't know, isn't this excessive? I didn't agree to it though. I wanted to do just the blood test and fecal test first, and THEN move on to other tests if necessary. So I'm left wondering if I'm being ripped off, and I'm annoyed that she keeps pushing the Hills Diet products! This vet has given me an estimate for spaying, and it's close to $700, which I know is way too high, so now I just see dollar signs all over her face. But aside from the money issue, can anyone recommend a GOOD food that would be less high in calcium and phosphorous? And does anyone know what is the effect of high phosphorous? Sorry about the rant, I'm just annoyed. As you can guess, I'm looking for a new vet.
I'm glad you are looking for another vet. Both diets she recommended are not good, to be nice, and the spay estimate is completely outrageous. If you're in Canada, come to Manitoba! One thing I would suggest for your dog is probiotics,to try to maintain the right balance of good and bad bacteria in her gut. What breed is your dog, and how is she reacting to the ground beef and rice? (smart move, by the way)
Hi i recently got a english mastiff pup who came to us with coccidia, i have other animals needless to say by the time we caught it they all had it. I have been feeding wellness for awhile my dogs do really good with it , i do add a little plain pumpkin or sweet potato( this helps with loose stool). And they love it. You can also give her some plain yogurt with help her tummy. Amonia and water to clean up will kill the coccidia, bleach doesn't do it. I would get a new vet thats way to much money. GL
Thanks for those tips! just a couple of questions: - Pen 2: my puppy is a Westie, her name is Molly. how can I get some probiotics in her diet? can it be just plain yogurt? and would that be until she goes back to normal with her stool, or should I give it to her once a week, or something like that? We live downtown Toronto, so that may account for the insane prices, but I have already talked to other friends and neighbours who have recommended a couple of clinics also in the downtown area, that I'm looking into, and they seem more reasonable. Molly seems to LOVE her rice and ground beef! she literally LICKED THE BOWL last night! maybe it feels like "comfort food" for her? i'm mixing it with a bit of her regular food now, and will probably phase it out by the end of the week, if she's ok. - Sherman's Mom: will the pumpkin and sweet potato help to firm up her stool? I had read about pumpkin for dogs with constipation.
Regarding the calcium and phosphorous, I did a quick search online today, and it appears they are both related to bone development, and they are interrelated. I also read that they should be balanced at a ratio of 1.2 parts calcium, for 1 part phosphorous. So I checked the label for Wellness Just for Puppy, and what do you know... it's 1.3 calcium, 1 phosphorous. I REALLY doubt that the 0.1 difference in calcium is throwing off my puppy's health. If you're interested, here's the link http://www.peteducation.com/article_print.cfm?articleid=652
Andy goes to an allergist and he eats a limited ingredient diet that has no grains in it.
He eats Royal Canin IVP Duck and Potato kibble and canned. It is a prescription food, so you need to get a vet to write a scrip. You can buy it online from Nationalpetpharmacy.com. I buy mine locally. It IS NOT CHEAP. Andy's food bill runs about $115 US a month--he is a Scottie, and does not eat that much--that covers a 8# bag of kibble and a 24 can case of food (he eats 1/2 can a day for dinner)
He is very healthy and loves his food. They also have treats (Royal Canin).
I am sure Royal Canin has a puppy food--and it might not be RX. You'd have to go online and check.
They also have venison and sweet potato and kangaroo and sweet potato that ANdy can have with his allergies.
My grandpuppy eats the same food when he visits and loves it--he has no health problems.
You can feed your dog plain yoghurt, a tablespoon at each meal. You can also find probiotics labelled as such, at pet stores and health food stores. Since Coccidiosis looks a lot like Giardia, I would find another vet, and then ask what he thinks about keeping your dog on Albon, and Flagyl for a bit longer. The food you feed should have lactobacillus acidophilous in it already; so that's just another ingredient to consider when choosing the right food. I would wash all the dogs bedding with hot water, and add quarternary ammonia to the wash. I would also keep clear of any other dogs until the vet tells you it's ok to do so. Good luck, I hope your little dog is better soon.
Hi, I have a very similar problem. I recently got my 9 week old chihuahua 2 weeks ago and he was doing very well for a week. Then all of sudden, one day, he had runny watery stools 5x that day so I brought him to the vet in which she did a parvo test and fecal stool test. Test for parvo came back negative. She concluded that it could be some parasites in his body and prescribed him flagyl for 7 days. He is on his 5th day of therapy, but he doesn't seem to be doing any better. I'm thinking it could be coccidia in which there would be a different medication for that. I've been syringe feeding him ever since this happened because he doesn't want to eat anything. The vet also told me to get hill's prescription a/d and i/d and now I'm beginning to question its content after reading this post. What kind of food do you think I should give him? Also, the vet claims that he is too small so he would need to be syringe fed until he is older. The only reason why I'm not believing this reasoning is because he was eating perfectly normal a week ago before the diarrhea happened.