I have been reading about dog food lately. I am wondering about Maxximum Nutrition and Exceed. I am not near any specialty shops or feed stores. However, we have a Wal-Mart and a Sam's Club. I saw Wiley's food chart but it does not mention these two brands. I plan on feeding the Lamb and Rice formula. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
We fed Maxximum Nutrition to our dogs before specialty feed stores opened in our area. They did very well on the food, much more so than they did on the Canidae that we tried initially (which gave my akita constant runs for 3 months). I think someone scored that food once, and it got a 96 or a 92 (Very low A or a B)? It's not a top notch food like Merricks or Timberwolf, it's not as bad as say, Pedigree or Ol'Roy.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
"If you take the time to actually read wileys food chart it tells you how to grade your dog food. All you need is the ingredients list."
ruffian, thanks for assuming I did not read the list. I do not understand why people feel the need to be condescending.
Anyway, back to my original question. I do not have the ingredient list of either dog foods. I was hoping someone here had the answer already. I have looked on the internet for the list without success. So if anyone out there has the answer to my question --- thanks in advance.
alldogsgo2heaven, since this food is so hard to find, and it's available through Sam's Club, I would'nt buy it on those points alone. Sam's Club is owned and operated by Wal-Mart, and nowhere could I find an ingredient list. I noticed though that the link provided by Riley explained the ingredients of that Exceed food, and it's supposed to be performance? It contains corn in 2 forms, beet pulp, grain and menadione. I'd hate to see what their non-performance dog food has in it. One 'review' of the food (which is all I could find on the lamb and rice said it's made by Nestle Purina, and it's total crap. Some other reviews said that their dogs faired much better on the chicken formula. I don't know how much stock you can put in reviews, but I thought I'd mention them anyway.
***Edited By: Pen2 on 10/17/2008 3:41:09 PM*** Reason: additional information
Lamb and Rice formulas generally do not contain corn. Maxximum Nutrition Lamb and Rice received an A+ and it's sold at Wal-Mart. I live close to Wal-Mart and Sam's so it would make things easier for me. Dog food weighs a lot so having it shipped to my home is quite expensive.
Ok well we will start by the fact that it is made by Diamond I believe, that alone would make me back away from the bag. Second is the fact that it is made for sale in Wal-Mart, a store thats whole existence is to find the cheapest crap to sell, what would make you think it is made with high quality products?
I found the ingredients list, but personally "blue berry pomace" is hardly what I would consider added "fruit" and peas is the only veggies listed as well.
and the menadione also concerns me do you even know what it is
Menadione, also known as vitamin K3, is a synthetic version of vitamin K. The natural occuring compounds are vitamin K1 (Phylloquinone, from plant sources) and Vitamin K2 (Menaquinone, synthesized by bacteria in the digestive tract and absorbed by the body). Technically menadione isn't even a vitamin, but a precursor that is converted in the body after ingestion. Natural vitamin K is fat soluble, while menadione derivatives (pure menadione can not be processed) are water soluble and bypass the natural pathway of utilization by the body.
If a food scores an A+ using the grading scale and people still consider it crap based on particular ingredients, then Wiley's grading scale isnt' worth much in terms of grading dog foods and what's the point of using it?
Maxximum is Diamond dog food, just repackaged and sold under a Walmart brand name. If you can get it easily, your dogs like it and do well on it, I say go for it.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
Minniyar you are so right. "If a food scores an A+ using the grading scale and people still consider it crap based on particular ingredients, then Wiley's grading scale isnt' worth much in terms of grading dog foods and what's the point of using it?" You hit the nail on the head. I fed Canidae but I have since moved to a different city. BTW wiley's scale is a guide it's not the bible.
"the fact that it is made for sale in Wal-Mart, a store thats whole existence is to find the cheapest crap to sell, what would make you think it is made with high quality products?"
Sigh.. this always annoys me. Don't support your argument with "it's walmart so it must be bad". That kind of thinking is what creates false information. I show dogs and have for years. I used to use Science Diet, got tired of the byproducts and eventually went to Nutro. It was better, but my dogs still had the occasional bouts of diarrhea... I'm happy to say that my 3 dogs have been on Maxximum for over a year now and it's the first dog food that I've ever fed them, where I never see the occasional diarrhea or ill effects.
The fact is that you should feed your dogs what they do best on. Maxximum actually costs me as much as Nutro, so it's not the standard crap department store food anyway. It's a better food and simply better for your pet. The proof is running around right here in front of me. Experience is the best teacher.
I have gone threw 15 different dog foods for my mastiffs. I could not get any of them to keep weight on them and they really didnt want to eat it unless they starved for a few days. Then I was refered to the Exceed. I have not used another food since then. My mastiffs are heavy like they should be but no overweight and they actually enjoy feeding time now. They look forward to eating their dog food. I think when you look for a dog food for your pets, you need to let the pet pick out their food. They know whats good for them.
My dog was having terrible allegies with the food we had him on, a vet suggested Lamb and rice and I tried the Sam's Exceed Lamb and Rich. His skin cleared up nicely and until last week when all of a sudden it isn't being carried at Sam's, I figured that's what we'd keep him on. Sam's only had Purina One Lamb and Rice. So I said well...he had to eat. So it's been a week and he's already miserable. I look at the ingredients and it's FULL of corn. Obviously the allergy is to corn. I paid out the wazoo for the Purina One, I WANT EXCEED BACK!!
Purina ONE is not real expensive...did you use the sensitive systems formula? My show dogs have been on ONE for years, they do the best on it than other foods I have tried and they look great. Whatever works for you and your dog does well on is the food for you IMO.
I have a dobe with allergies, she eats Natures Recipe lamd and Rice and has never had another infection since. It is reasonable at about $23 for 20 pounds (on sale it is $19.99). Very reasonable considering the vet bills and pain it has saved her from.
Very good ruffion you done your home work there mate am impressed the dry dog food in England can be very expensive ranging from £9.99 to £69.99 the latter is way out of my price range that's why i cook fresh vegetables twice a week for my dogs just to add that little bit of extra nutrition and add some flavour to there boring dry dog food Peace Everyone Paddy