I am going insane!!! I have a 9 weeks old Shih Tzu puppy, which I bought only 1 week ago. I made a hugh mistake and let her run free for the pass few days in the bathroom, where I gated off. After reading many materials, it said it is best method to potty training using a crate. So I putted her into the crate and she is crying like crazy!!! And she is jumping up and down in the crate, screaming..... It breaks my heart. Can a puppy die from crying too much??? Any suggest what I should do? I putted a blanket and toys in the crate already and don't know what else to do.
Well the best thing to do is only put her in there at night. If she is crying alot then put her in another room. If you give in to her than she will never use the crate. My brothers pit puppy use to howl and wine in the middle of the night all night long. Kept us up at all hours. But we left him in there and after a few days he goes in there on his own and he will sleep/play with toys while he is in there and makes no noise at all. My pit puppy on the other hand when I started to crate train her she did great and never made any noise at all. Some does take to it rather quickly, while others takes a little while. Keep trying and your pup will learn that that is their bed. Also some other security tip for your pup. Try putting a blanket over the crate. It will help and she wont feel so scared. You dont have to, but in my experiance a blanket/toys in the crate along with a blanket to cover the outside has helpped me.
My husband and I both work full time. Is it ok to keep her in the crate for 10 hours a day? I feel terrible about it. Right now we keep her in the bathroom so she can walk around and play by herself. But she will pee and poo all over the place eventhough I placed a training pad. Any sugguestions?
Well seeing as everyone basicly just told me i'm a bad owner for how I trained my dog. I removed what I said.
Just so you all know tho. My way worked and guess what! she is only Three and a half months old and she is 99% potty trained! I dont even have to crate her in the day time when I leave to go somewhere. I come home and she leaves no mess. Teaching them eairly on is the best way to do it.
Ps. I put her in the crate for 8 Hrs while I was sleeping at the age of 8-9 weeks old and she "NEVER" went to the bathroom in her crate. Now she sleeps with me in "My" bed all night long and does not go potty at all untill I wake up and take her out.
***Edited By: TigaHotty on 10/26/2008 10:18:37 AM*** Reason: Different advice.
You can NOT expect a 9-week-old puppy of any breed to be able to go 10 hours without HAVING to pee and poo. Putting her in a crate for that length of time is setting her up for failure and is cruel to her on top of it. She simply cannot do it at this age, no matter how hard she might try. If you (or someone else) cannot take her out, I would suggest you put her crate in the bathroom while you are at work and leave the door OPEN, and continue working on getting her to use the potty pad. She will not instinctively know what they are for, you need to teach her that it is OK to go on them.
You are facing an uphill battle here, but please, for the sake of this poor little puppy, do not crate her the entire time you are at work.
Agree with pinlover....you CANNOT lock a 9 weeks puppy up for that many hors and expect her to NOT poop and pee in her crate. Puppies that age have to go, and cannot hold it for that long. It is going to cause her to learn to go where she sleeps, and is also cruel.
Go back to your original method if you cant ome home and let her out throughout the day. Crate door open, and she will learn crate is for rest, pads are for potty. When she doesnt use the pads, simply clean up the mess and place the poop or the pee soaken paper towel on the pads so she can understand that this is what they're for.
If you do a search for crate training in this forum, you will find a number of posts that deal with how to get your puppy to like the crate. they're great tips, so take a look. Regarding the potty training, I just want to share some of my experiences, since i recently went through that stage with my puppy. She is now 6 months old, and i think we finally are at a stage where the potty issues are under control. I live in a condo and I work a regular 8 hr day, and it's just me and Molly, so there's no one else that can come home and take her out at regular intervals. I didn't crate her simply because my work isn't always regular hours, and I hated the thought of her going potty in her crate, and suffering for it. When I got her and had to go back to work (I spent one week at home, so she was 9 weeks old too), I first left her in a play pen with a pee pad, her crate, and water. She was just starting to get the hang of the pads at that point, so it was hit and miss. I went home for lunch for about 2 or 3 weeks to spend an hour with her, but we were not going outside, because both the breeder and vet's advice was not to go out until she was fully immunized, so she was only pad trained at that point. Eventually I felt, like you, that maybe she needed more space to walk, plus, she was stepping in the water, tipping it over, etc., so I decided to leave her in the washroom, with the door open, and a baby gate. This way, she could look out into the hallway and kitchen, and not feel "trapped". I left her crate, her toys, water bowl, and pad, all in the washroom. At first, she still peed on and off the pad. She also would poo, and sometimes she would make a big mess. Luckily, she never went potty in her crate, and she only used it as her bed. I stuck with it, and as much as I would get frustrated, I would just come home and clean up any mess. But I couldn't get upset at her, because I knew she HAD to go. At least she wasn't going everywhere in the house, and I hoped it would get better. And it has. Since we started going out to the park to potty, I found that she actually preferred it, and as time went on, she could also hold it longer. So now we go out in the morning just before I leave, in the evening as soon as I get home, and later in the evening before bed, and it seems to be working. She will not poo at all during the day, so that's a relief, but she does pee on her pad (although some days, she doesn't at all). I still leave her pad during the day, because if she drinks water, she will have to go. Another aspect is the feeding schedule. You need to time her feedings on a regular schedule, so that you can predict when she'll need to poo. Molly eats in the morning and evening, and it seems to work so she doesn't need to poo during the daytime. Be patient, and teach her that the pad is the place to go. I know that the pads are not ideal because they are still peeing in the house, but if your situation is one where you cannot take her out every 2 hours, or you don't have a yard that she can just walk out to, then I think the pads are a good option. But do take her outside whenever possible, because that way they learn that the main potty place is outdoors. It is frustrating at times, and my experience was that it got worse, before it got better; Molly started to pee all over the apartment for about a week, almost as if she was trying to test me for the last time, before it finally "clicked" for her, and she hasn't peed on the floor in about two months. You need to keep saying NO whenever there's an accident on the carpet, or other areas than the pad. Also, leave the pad in the same place ALWAYS, do not move it so you dont' confuse her. Oh, and one more thing, very important: give her lots of praise and a great yummy treat whenever she goes on her pad. This is actually what got Molly to start making the connection that "potty on the pad = good stuff!", and it helped with creating this habit. That was a big factor in making this work. Good luck!
Thanks for all the suggestions. I too agree that I should not trap her in the crate for such a long time, although both my puppy training class instructor and the vet said otherwise. Right now I am attaching the crate to the gate where I blocked off the bathroom to let her go in and out on her own. So at least she will get some space to walk around and go potty if she has to. I don't want to punish her simply because I can't be home to take care of her. Hopefully this will all work out at the end.