I'm new to the board. My 3 year old male Shih-Tzu Cody recently had surgery for the removal of stones. They were sent to the Minnesota Urolith Center for analysis. They all came back 100% Calicium Oxalate! I'm struggling trying to find out what he can and can not eat. There are so many conflicting reports out there. Though all sources do indicate a canned food diet. I'm hoping someone on the board perhaps a dog with the same problem or knows of someone who does....who might be able to offer me some insight as to how to treat my little man. My Vet has told me to feed him Mighty Dog. I want to ensure I offer the best care possible to him. Thanks for any help you can offer.
What brand of food were you feeding your dog, and were you free feeding him? Foods with wheat flour, wheat germ, and oatmeal are high in calcium oxylate. Does your dog drink plenty of water? That's the reason some people recommend a wet food diet, because of the water content.
I was feeding him Kibbles and Bits....the extra small pieces for little dogs, and for treats he got the Milkbone dog treats. Though I will admit, every now and then he got a fork full of people food: he loves eggs, peanut butter, cheese, and crackers. I of course feel so guilty for giving him items that he shouldn't of had....he's the first dog I've ever owned. He's my little cuddle buddy, and his future health is so important to me....I understand his chances of repeat stones in the first 2 years is 42%....so I want to ensure I do everything I can to prevent that from happening. Thank you for your reply....
Hi, the reason I asked if you were free feeding your little dog is because they can easily eat too much, if they are so inclined, unless you stick religiously to the daily requirement. Unfortunately Beneful is full of high oxylate foods, and not a good food at all. Not to be mean, but peanut butter is one of the very high calcium oxylate foods also. I would not necessarily feed a total wet food diet, just because of the fact that it's not so great for the teeth, in the long run, and you're missing a lot of vitamins, minerals and fiber, plus you're paying for moisture. I would find a low fat, low protein diet food for him, sticking to just under the required amount per day.Look up the high oxylate foods, a few of which are wheat, oats, spelt, strawberries bluberries, and peanut butter. There are a lot of them; so I won't list them here. I would find a good canned food, and either mix it with the dry, or offer it on the side.I would also give an apple cider vinegar capsule at every meal. Eggs are low oxylate, but fairly high protein. You might get away with giving him a tiny treat of eggs. Funnily enough, your dog still needs calcium, so instead of the unhealthy treats he's getting now, try cottage cheese, or plain yoghurt. A food that I would suggest is Wellness Core. (I hav'nt checked it for high oxylate, but it's grain free, and low fat, low protein.) The other thing to make sure of is that he always has fresh filtered drinking water on hand at all times. Good luck with the little guy.
I've looked up the high oxalate foods, and I'm simply amazed! I did see that they sell Wellness Core at my local Country Max...so I will check them out. I'm assuming that I would determine if the canned food was high oxalate by reading the listed ingredients? Correct.....
What did you mean that I pay for the moisture of a canned food? I have noticed that Cody's stool are now very soft and runny.....and he's very gassy! .
Silly question but how would I determine the proper amount to feed him daily? I had been giving him a 1/4 cup of dry food in the morning, in the afternoon, and again in the late evening....he did quite often leave food in his bowl. The canned food, he gobbles right down!
Again, thank you for all the information you have given to me....it's been a huge help!
I believe you will be feeding less dry food, if you switch to Wellness Core.The only concern I have is the protein content being 34%. I do believe though, that if he is eating a very good quality protein, with out all the treats, and extras, he will be fine. You are presently feeding the same amount of food to Cody as I am feeding my dogs who average 22 pounds. I'm just guessing that he's around 15 pounds, correct me if I'm wrong; so he should be getting fed twice a day,and I personally would give him no more than 1/4 of a cup in the morning, perhaps with a tablespoon of yoghurt, or a spoon full of wet food mixed in with it. I would cut out the middle meal, or give him a little bit of cottage cheese. If I knew how much he weighed I could be a little more exact about this, but even with out knowing his weight, but knowing his condition, this is the direction I would head for. When I said you're paying for moisture in canned food, I was referring to the really poor brands, which contain 80% moisture...meaning water. To me that's ridiculous.Plus the ingredients are usually crap. Yes, he should be drinking more water, but if you want to incorporate water in the form of wet dog food, buy a really high quality wet food. If you get the huge list of high oxylate foods, which you'll be pleased to know do not include dairy products (he can have some low fat cheese for a treat), you'll be better able to cross some of the brands off your list. I hope this helps, and I havn't confused you even more! Good luck with him, I'll be pleased to hear how he's doing.
I forgot to mention that I would give Orijen a try, especially the 6 fish. It is a great food, in my opinion, and I would be very surprised if your little dog did'nt like it. Most of the high quality dog foods offer trial size bags at a very reasonable price so you can try them out.
Hi, I was sent this, and thought it would be of great interest to you, as it was to me. Thanks to Zomo for sending it to me. This may also be of interest to anyone else who is confused with the barage of information that we are given regarding the multitude of foods available.
I can't thank you enough for all the helpful info.....I'm so glad I stumbled onto this forum! My little Cody just means the world to me....I never thought I'd have a dog, and now I can't imagine my life without one! Thanks again for being so kind, helpful and willing to help a stranger...