First let me state I am not going to breed until after all tests come back that he is definately a excellent healthy boy. I have a yellow lab that I am thinking of getting the appropriate tests done on before I let my friends female (shes been tested and came back excellent in hips, eyes etc.) They are both great as far as AKC standards as Im told by the vet. My question is He (mine) is yellow hers however is (choc) would this be good to breed 2 different colors? I was told by my vet it is fine but I wanted to ask my friends here as this is where I get the best answers from lol. My friends has bred her lab in the past with choc. and the litters were all nice. Also second question, my male is a year old her choc is 3 yrs old. What is the best age to breed for both? I want to make sure min isnt to young and hers isnt to old. Again Im not saying I will absolutely do this until I get all the questions and tests done. If they were to breed being 2 colors what would the litter be? Would there be a chance of both colors or would the choc being darker bring the most probability (sp)?
You should not breed your male until he's 2 years old, firstly. What colour were the parents of each dog? There are certain combinations that produce the different colours, but only 2 that produce chocolate. There is also a higher risk of breeding a yellow to a chocolate for PRA and hip dysplasia.So in order for me to tell you what the possibilities are, I need to know the colours of both sets of parents.
I am not a lab expert, but my understanding is they do breed 2 different colors. I would check with a lab breeder.
His hips can not offically done by OFA until he is at least 18months, then you can do a prelim. If that comes back good or excellent, and his eyes are normal. I see no problem in breeding then. The permant OFA's can be done at 2yrs. You can wait the extra months and only do it once. Eyes can be done once a year by a canine opthamoligist(sorry sp?????), but you don't have to do it every year if you are only going to breed him the one time. Just have it done before breeding.
As far as I am concerned, unless your vet is a breeder of labs he really cant tell you what is a good dog or not. Your best thing is to talk to a good breeder, and mentor that breeder. Make sure your dogs bloodlines and the bitches bloodlines are both good. You always want to make sure the cross is going to produce better dogs then you already own.
Lastly I would suggest doing as much research as possible on the breed, and see what other kinds of health problems they may have. Screen your puppy buyers well, and hold papers until the puppies have been spayed or neutered. You never know where on of your babies could end up. Nothing is worse then finding out your baby has ended up in a shelter or rescue or worse a puppy mill.
I hope that you take everything into consideration, and do everything needed to produce a healthy happy litter. It isn't cheap, but the rewards of health are worth more then all the money in the world. Make sure the friend who owns the bitch has done alot of research on breeding, and the complications. I am sure the last thing you would want is to console your friend because their dog died during delivery.
I'm curious as to the reason(s) you want to breed your male. Also, it really doesn't sound to me as if the person who has the female lab is very knowledgeable about breeding. What are her reasons for breeding?
Vets are not familiar with AKC standards, unless they are Lab breeders/exhibitors. Having a show person evaluate your dog is your best bet for finding if he is of quality or not.
I just went back and read your other post, yes this is the one you rescued, I saw that now. Also he is only 8 months old. He is in no way old enough to be bred yet. He should be at least 2 years old, at which age he can get his OFA clearanes.
With the thousands of great labs out there, why would you want to breed an unregistered lab of unknown pedigree? You have no idea what his parents were like, both could have had hip or elbow dysplasia and passed the gene on to him.
Never trust a tall dwarf... he's lying about something.
I decided not to breed him after I read about labs and colors and OFA cerf testing etc. I researched alot and decided the best thing for me and him is to just get him nuetered so I already put a call into the vet to have him done. He will be getting fixed in 3 weeks. Thanks for all your help I knew I would get good advice and knowledge from all of you!
Congrats...not so muh for the decision you made, but moreso for being able to read the replies, and take something from them. Many come, ask advice, then when it is not what they wanted to hear decide we are bashing them and the arguing begins.
Nice to see someone who truly has the best interest on the dog in mind!
You can cross breed colors. However, if you are breeding chocolate to yellow you may get black if the yellow does not have the chocolate gene. You can also wind up with yellows with chocolate pigment and light colored eyes due to dilution.
All puppies will have the dilute gene at the very least. You also might get chocolates depending on what the yellow is carrying.
But that type of litter is often a group of solid black puppies.
On the best of days a dog is a dog, and on the worst of days a dog is a dog.
We had a dog that we wanted to breed a few years ago. We took him to the vet to get him checked. We knew his lineage, and knew he was purebreed, but wanted to make sure he was healthy. The vet immediatly noticed one of his testicles had not descended, he was close to two years old. The vet was concerned that this increased his risk of prostate cancer to like 90%. So we of course immediatly had him nuetered. I went to pick him up after surgery, and the vet showed me video of the tissue they removed. The once testicle was healthy looking, but the other was black and looked very bad. The next male I got, was neutered as a pup. I'll leave the breeding to the experts!
Glad to hear you decided to neuter. Labs and Lab mixes are one of the highest numbers in breeds in the shelters. There is no reason to breed unless it is the best of the best. And leaving the breeding to the experts is the best!!! And even with all the work we breeders put into our breeding programs, it is still a difficult task not to be taken lightly.
He's your friend,your partner,your defender your dog.You are his life,his love,his leader. He will be yours faithful and true to the last beat of his heart.You owe it to him to worthy of such devotion