Ok well Ive done rescue but never from a "kennel breeder" it has always come from homes or strays that I have taken in. My friend called me tonight she is thinking of going and getting a 8 month old lab from a guy who runs a kennel and breeds. I guess from what Im told he has too sell all his dogs according to a divorce (im thinking maybe he just is stopping breeding?), well the dog has been an outside dog and her question that i couldnt answer was how do you take an outdoor dog at 8 mths old and turn them into an indoor using the bathroom outside dog? are thier temps good usually? i know labs are generally good temp but if hes been outdoors from baby til 8 mths what are the chances of him being a good indoor candidate? I hope Im wording this right. I didnt want to discourage her from saving this pup from endless breeding or being put in a shelter but she as I do have 5 children and I nor she wants the pup to bite her kids if its not used to being handled. Anyone on here have any advice on what she should look for before she brings this poor thing out of there? Or should she stay away? ARGHHH! This is why I hate BYB. I guess this pup is being saved but who knows how many others he has. According to my friend he has to sell over 10 dogs ranging from 8 mths - 3 yrs old. All labs and all colors. Supposably he has the alc papers with generations to show where the dogs came from but still sounds off to me? Or am I just so upset at the whole situation right now to really see?
I bought my puppy at 5 months old... which had a different life style than what I was going to give him.. He was an outside dog..allowed in now and then. I broke him in to being an inside dog. I believe with patients and time it could work.. but with the children I don't know. It all depends on how much patients and time she has. She will have to pretend as if it is a baby puppy, which it really still is. And not let the children excite it,scare it or over whelm it. This would be very confusing to the pup. I believe it's all in time and with a slow constant pace... from outside to inside... NOT a dramatic change all at once... I did it all at once and it was HECK.. he wasn't use to a small kennnel or the inside heat...etc.. and it was heck with the crying and wining.. and then it was cover or uncover the cage etc.... but over time it worked out... If I had to do it over again... to a pup which was like mine 5months or older.. I would have done it gradually.. it would have been easier on me and the pup.
How old are your friend's children? If the dog is poorly bred, as is happening so often now, it could end up being a dangerous situation.As long as your friend has a lot of time to devote to the dog, things could work out. It just depends on the age of the children as to whether she can offer that time though. I would suggest having his crate in a large x-pen for the first while, and keep the dog relatively quiet. He will be a typical Lab puppy who has received no training, jumping all over everyone etc; so it's important to get him into obedience classes as soon as any health issues like ear mites, or worms are dealt with.He will also require a great deal of exercise, to keep him from getting bored. Depending on the dog's pedigree he could be a lovely dog. On the other hand he could be just plain nasty because of a combination of genetics, and no proper human sociaaalization as a puppy. I wish her luck, and bless her for saving this dog.
I would pass on it, if the dog is kenneled it likely to be hyperactive. Unless shes got a huge fenced in yard. I wouldn't, a lab is a handful when they haven't had any training, and is the dog neutered? If not Probly marks alot if its outside. Its all about the temperment for me, so she needs to spend some time with the dog first, if its a calm dog, thats great.
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Personally I would have have your friend talk to the breeder, and ask for a week or 2week trial period. I have done this, and sometimes I kept a dog other times I gave them back. The biggest problem is you have missed the crucial socializtion period, and although most temperment faults (if the dog has any) could probably be over come. The problem is with 5 childern, I would be concerned she would not have the time to devote to the training the dog probably despertly needs. An 8month old lab is a very large hyper puppy. It can be a home wreaker pretty fast. As far as the marking and house breaking, it is pretty easy as long as she can watch him like you would watch a 2yr old child. Again being busy with 5 childern, that can be difficult. She might want to rethink the whole thing.
Papers are not a guarentee of anything. There are too many registries out there now that issue papers if you pay a fee.
An eight month old dog, even coming from a mill situation, should turn into a good dog if your friend is willing to work with him. When introducing him into living in a house I recommend the "nothing in life is free" method. That means that he needs to earn his priviledges. Start out in a gated area and as the dog proves he will not destroy things give him more access. As far as housebreaking goes - I find that tethering the dog to me while he's in the house is a great way to teach them to go outside. I know when an accident is about to happen, take the dog out and then reward him when he goes outside. Puppy classes with also help.
The key is being consistent and being willing to do some work. Bless your freind from rescuing this baby - I truly hope things work out.