Have you ever adopted a dog and were told it was one thing and not something but it turned out to be exactly what they were told the dog wasn't.
Sorry so long
An old friend of mine Jessica who I have been in touch with but haven't seen in forever adopted a mix from a shelter.....they were told it was a Rat Terrier/Corgi mix and they questioned them about if there was any chance the dog had pit in it.....due to the blocky head and Ears. but they said there was no way there was any pit in that dog.
the adoption paperwork states the dog is a Terrier/Corgi mix
So they go ahead and adopt the dog and they take the dog to the vet and the person entering the data says do you want us to put Pit bull mix in or just Terrier mix?
And they said he is a Rat Terrier/Corgi mix and the receptionist just nods and puts terrier mix in.
While talking to the vet the vet said without a doubt in his mind that dog is part Pit Bull. And they decided to have a DNA breed test done. Vets suggestion
The dog is fairly small around 30-35 pounds and they didn't think much of it when they were told that he had no pit bull in him because they always thought Pits were so much larger.
Well they already love this dog and they are waiting for the test results and they want to keep this dog, but they rent a condo and the landlord doesn't allow Pit bulls or mixes of them.
What can they do if it comes back and says He does have Pit Bull which they are sure the results will say that. I mean they want to keep the dog but what can they do with it until they can move (and that might take a few months)
And is there anything that can be done about the place that pretty much guarenteed this dog had not pit in it.
I mean we all know they take educated guesses but even I see the pit in this dog.
They don't want to have to give up this dog but they don't know what to do with the dog until they can leave. And they are upset at what they were told.
I mean had they been honest they wouldn't have adopted the dog right now per se but breed doesn't bother them they just can't have it where they live......you know.
What should I tell my friend to do. they have had the dog for only a few days
I told her keep the dog and if the landlord asks tell him what the shelter said she was. And move as soon as you can. But the vet threw a kink into things I guess.
But I don't know what the laws are like on the West Coast
I will admit they were a little naive just to take it at face value like that.....this is there first time adopting from a shelter and my friend fell in love with this little guy but her husband was suspicious but when they told them there was no pit he agreed to go ahead and still adopt the dog.
Now he is upset and wants to talk to his lawyer and my friend doesn't want him too....I think she understood all along they can't gurantee anything at the shelter but I think he thought it was just like getting a dog at a breeder or petstore. (this is his first dog) She has had other dogs before and understood this.
My friend never wanted to persue it but her husband it seems to really bother him....but she just wants him to drop the whole issue
For my friend Jessica it was love at first site with this dog.....she informed me she just picked a name for him. Maxwell (like the beatles song: "maxwells silver hammer) she even bought him a silver hammer sqeaky toy
I wanted to add they went ahead and put in their 60 day notice to vacate.....they have a friend that might let them stay with her until they can get a place and my friend said she will probably just go on and take the dog over there and stay there. Sounds like they are working through it but its a tough situation. She said she made a commitment to Maxwell and she isn't taking him back to the shelter to die. Her husband is starting to come around she said
Do you think this is the best answer to the situation
The shelter can only go by what the last owner told them. If it was a stray they are guessing about the breeds which is what the vet is also doing. Shelters are notoriously bad at misidentifying dog breeds so it is quite possible the dog is mixed with pit bull. Since there are many breeds with blocky heads I wouldn't be too worried at this point. It is quite possible the dog is mixed with boxer, Boston bulldog, English bulldog or a Heinz 57 which are NOT pit bulls but whose pups can look like pitties.
The shelter could have messed up. We fostered a litter of pups that came out of a dobie mom and the pups looked like pure australian shepherds-no one believe they were half dobe!! they probably got the pup in a took a good guess. Really any terrier breed can make you think pit I guess-really you'll never know.
Those dna tests are all worth less. None of them test for pits anyway so it wouldn't be telling you anything.
Someone on another forum I am on got one done on her almost 100lb short haired black dog and it said he was a malteese mix with some other small breed like a poodle. There was nooooo way thats right!
If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons -James Thurber
Well, I agree, that the shelters don't seem to make even educated guesses most of the time. They also DO seem to try and hide the pit part whenever they can get away with it. I have seen this first hand many times. My friend wanted to adopt a puppy, and he was on the phone with us, we told him that they very slyly said pit mix in the wording when they told him the breed. Like four times this person tried to explain pit mix in dif. ways as we called him on it. We told our friend that they can be great dogs, but this person was full of it. When he gets to see the actual paperwork, guess what it says? LOL. Guess he didn't read the paperwork. We told our friend not to get the dog anyways, because these 'well meaning' people were actually SHOWING, and letting people pet a puppy who had parvo who would be for adoption when he was better. And this was at a large chain where they do adoptions on the weekend. He took the puppy home anyway, and took it back 3 days later when they told him the blood in the stool was just worms (possible, but not worth the risk). I don't believe your friend's husband has much recourse, unless there is a guarantee in writing that the terrier was not pit bull terrier. Also, the paperwork may have said terrier mix, (and they may have asked), because so many places do not allow the word pit bull in. Most complexes just ask that you submit your purchase or adoption paperwork and a picture. Most places allow the dog to stay if the picture is not OBVIOUSLY a pit, and the paperwork says otherwise. So I guess it depends on how strict the complex is? Your friend sounds like a GREAT new mom. What a lucky dog.
I agree. that he should just cool it...if he tries to take the shelter to court he will be laughed out of there and Jess seems to understand that they can't be 100% sure. I also told her to find another vet because they got pushed to do an unnecessary DNA test (unless the husband pushed for it) and I told her how unaccurate those are and how I don't trust them being a mix owner myself. My dog is down as a Jack Russ/Basenji mix and that is just going on her physical features. I don't trust those DNA tests.
But I think Maxwell will have a very long happy life with her. And her husband does love the dog but he has a real hot head and feels he was lied to. But he just wants to protect his pooch too I think
Baileys mamma: I'm not sure what you are getting at. But its apparently quite a common misconception. Like i said I haven't seen her in years but she did send a pic and that dog is without a doubt a pit bull mix. They just didn't know. Her problem is with a landlord at her condo.....my problem is with ignorant neighbors who don't know the differnece between a labrador and a Golden retriever, a boxer and a french bulldog, a Chihuahua and a rat terrier. The submitted the picture and everything for approval and the landlord said no. Jess is out in California. I'm still back in a very very boring town in the east where nothing ever happens. Where people are very closed minded and every time a dog so much as barks they jump to the pitch fork and billy clubs routine because if a dog barks its vicious. I can't wait to move
Personally my issue now is health related and Identification related
We are having the vet put her down as a Jack russell Basenji. Simply because she has all the features of a basenji, the personality, and temperment. the rescue ended up admitting they had no idea what she was. For identification and health reasons we have her as a Jack russell/basenji mix. Though honestly she looks nothing like a Jack. Her pound paperwork says Jack Russell Terrier/Chihuahua but have you ever heard of a 23 pound jack russell or Chihuahua. If she were a bit taller and her ears didn't have that little flap over I would think she was a purebred....but she obviously isn't.
She is showing signs of a medical condition that is common in Basenjis as well.
The vet said to look into what she might be further and we did. Do to health.
We are certain she is predominately Basenji. And that is what is going on her records. She has the face, the wrinkles in the right place, the coloring and the patches of white in the right places (including the tip of the tail) and temperment and personality, the quicks, the yodle, she looks like most basenji mixes out there. I also spoke with a basenji rescue
Bailey'sMama, she has several stories going around on different forums.Sometimes they are about "friends", that have remarkably similiar stories/dogs as her.It's hard to keep up with all her stories. The main gist is, she is usually trying to get people to tell her there is no way her dog has any pitbull in it, it is a huge fear of hers.Or she is pretending a friend has a dog, and asks what do forum members think the chances are that her friends dog may have pitbull in it.
Timone you are a liar....You don't know a darn thing about anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You may think I'm making things up and like I said its wrong to bring things over from other places....You are one of those dogsters and they are just awful over there......I went off on them a few times and this person is trying to get me kicked off here. I have left several forums because they won't leave me alone.
And I don't have a dog named Maxwell my friend Jessica does.
You don't know a damn thing about me I don't even know who you are I just know you are someone trying to start stuff
I guess I just don't understand why i can't be left alone by the dogster people.....I really just don't understand....is it really that important to be a jerk and try to ruin other sites for people.
I went back on dogster to try to get several people who were mean kicked off and it didn't work so now because I was trying to do something good I can't be on any other dogsite....how long is this going to follow me
Timeone is there anyway to block you and anyone else that may have dogster that is going to be a jerk to me
And in all honesty if it really was a fear of mine....well I would have gotten rid of her back when those dogster pittie lovers first brought it up. But she isn't one over there every dog is a pit bull. But I don't know those people or anybody on a forum so I don't take dog breed recognition too seriously.
I ask just to ask for the heck of it.
I don't think she has it, no one who knows her thinks she has it, I wonder why that is Oh yeah because she doesn't have it. Duh.
don't get me wrong its fine to be a proud pit bull ownner and stand up for the breed that is admirable.
But it kind of sucks when people say your little dog is a breed that most people want dead when its very obvious she isn't. and you try to protect your dog while other people are putting theirs at risk
I've seen the pics of your pup, puppylove. Very cute, but I'd be willing to bet there's no Basenji is her background. Nothing you've mentioned here at TP led me to think you've got a Basenji mix. When I looked at the pics, I thought the rescue was correct with their guess. No pitbull, no Basenji. By her looks from your pics, I think it's what the shelter said, chihuahua/JRT, maybe with some Corgi thrown in for good measure.
Very coincidental that you have a long-lost friend going through pretty much the same thing as you are. Interesting world, eh?