***UPDATE*** Thanks so much to all of you for your suggestions. We have actually been checking shelters and have decided to adopt a small mixed puppy. She won't be ready until March 27th. After we get her settled in I will try to post pictures. We're very excited!
(Original post)- Hi, all. I recently lost my 7 year old Boston to a brain tumor. I still have a 4 1/2 year old Boston. My husband doesn't want to get the same breed if we get a puppy because of the health concerns (we had a male years ago that had seizures occasionally and died while having one, but he was an older dog). I think their personality is perfect for our family, so its hard to figure out which breed to consider. In the past 20 years we have had 4 Boston Terriers. I've been researching lots of small breed dogs and can't find a breed with the same personality, but I know that we all love our dogs and probably consider that particular breed perfect for us. I really like the Miniature Schnauzer and I have read a lot about how they are very vocal and would probably chase the wild rabbits that are around our house.(We have LOTS!) I also realize that they need a lot of grooming, which is not a problem. I have read that there really aren't health issues with the Miniature Pinscher, but I haven't talked to anyone that actually has one. Plus I realize that they need lots of socializing. I would love some advice or recommendations! (I will always have at least one Boston Terrier, though.) Thanks!
***Edited By: JDinVA on 3/18/2009 8:11:57 AM*** Reason: **Update**
All breeds have SOME problems which run specifically in their breed (some more than others) on top of regular old living thing issues. Min pins are prone to several eye issues and skin issues and legg perthes etc. I do love schnauzers personally, but considering boston's are your passion maybe you should look into a higher quality breeder (provided that wasn't the case in the first place)? Shoot, ask Pen . Some other possible suggestions (I don't know what characteristics you are actually looking for); cavalier or toy spaniel, brussels, jap chin, maybe a welsh terrier though they can be a bit bigger, westie. Alot of people that like boston's also seem to like frenchie's but if you are trying to go for fewer health issues that is DEFINANTLY not an option. Here's a good list of issues I found; http://www.petshoppuppies.org/genetics.htm
Thanks so much for your response and for the genetics link! I actually do love the Frenchies- have always wanted one, but the health issues are a concern. Thanks for the info on Miniature Pinschers, too.
And, yes, Candy didn't come from a higher quality Boston Terrier breeder, in my opinion, so I have explained this to my husband. I have only found one really good quality Boston breeder in Virginia, but there are some in Maryland.
Of the other Breeds that you mentioned, I have also thought about a Brussels, but I can't find a Breeder in my state or any close. They look like a little cute monster that should be on Sesame Street.
If I go with a long haired breed, I don't want one that sheds alot.
I'm not in any hurry - trying to do as much research as I can.
Overall, Miniature Pinschers are a healthy breed. Although as with any breed, it is all in the breeder you choose.
One of their main issues is patellar luxation. Also issues to watch for are legge calves perthes disease, becoming even more prevelant in BYB dogs are seizure disorders. Eye issues are generally not a main issue. Coat issues (alopecia) is found predominantly in the dilute colors (blues, fawns).
They are a very intelligent, highly active breed. Shedding can be compared to your Bostons.
Personality wise from your possible list, they most are similar to the Pug, imo.
Thanks for the info1 I didn't realize that they are prone to Patellar Luxation, as so many breeds are.
I spoke with a Boston breeder in my area last night. She's member of the Boston Terrier Club of Maryland. She does all of the testing and has her dogs certified. Right now she's just showing one of her dogs. Although she isn't expecting a litter until this summer, she wants me to bring my kids out so we can spend some time with her dogs (4), and talk with her. Also, the club is having an event in Westminster Maryland in April and she wants us to attend it. Of course, that doesn't mean that my husband will agree with getting another Boston, but maybe.
razz, my daughter would love a Pug, but everyone has said that they shed SO much! I talked to one breeder, when Candy was still alive and we were thinking about getting a puppy, and she said that they are not heavy seasonal shedders, but that they shed heavy all year. Someone else said that one Pug sheds as much as 5 other dogs. Also, on Animal Planets "Breed All About It', they talked about the enormous amount of shedding. But they are adorable.
I've heard that black pugs don't shed as much b/c they don't have as much undercoat, but I have no idea if it's true. In general I think black hair is less noticable, at least to me. At one time my neighbor had three fawn pugs and a yellow lab. I swear I ended up covered in blonde hairs if I so much as waved to her from my yard.
If you really love Bostons and have found a good breeder, that does all the right testing, then work on hubby some more. You have til this summer, right?
Very funny post Rottluvr! My friend has a yellow lab and he says that she is constantly shedding. I agree about the Bostons. I will know more after I go see this breeders dogs. I really like the fact that she wants us to come out and spend some time even though she has no puppies.
lpn169, I like your idea for hiding the hair thats on you! I think that black hair just doesn't show up as easily as lighter hair. We don't feel that our Bostons shed much, but maybe its because of the black hair.
If i were you i would go with a Yorkie a small loving breed who has a great pesonality. I have a yorkie myself It is a male the only pobably with hime i thiink this goes for a male dogs is peeing so often. But he is loving he always barks at strangers he is willing to take a car ride and not puke.He is the perfect dog for me but what about you
From reading your post, i would guess that you really would like another Boston. Whichever breed you choose, finding a good breeder is the key. No breeder can guarentee 0 health issues down the road, but they do put health at the top of the priority list.
I have French Bulldogs and will never have another breed. And as with any breed, they are prone to certain health issues that are breed specific. I have been lucky so far. All four have been great healthwise. Our male suffered from a prolapsed urethra, was neutered, and hasnt had any issues with it since. But i can not say they will be trouble free their entire lifetime. There are just no guarentees with any breed, even from the most health concious breeders. I can only hope and pray that they live long healthy lives, and love them while they are here.
Frenchies may be a breed to consider. They are refered to in the dog world as "little clowns" and they DO live up to the nickname. lol. Mine are the sweetest , playfulest, and most lovable breed i have ever owned. They are at my feet when i am walking, on my lap when i am sitting, and cuddled up next to me in my bed when i am sleeping. The only time they are not by my side is when the grandkids come over. Then they are rip roaring through the house playing and smooching them up. Sorry about the loss of your beloved Boston and good luck with whatever bred you choose.
"No Matter how little money and how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich." - Louis Sabin
Yes, Pugs do shed alot. But nothing can compare to the amount of hair floating around the house from my Yellow Lab. OMG, did that dog shed. She would shake and a cloud of fur would puff out around her. Who ever said the black Pugs don't shed as much are right. TidBit, my little black Pug does not shed nearly as much as Butter Bean and Bunny. She does not have the undercoat the fawn's have. I have a house rule--you are not allowed to wear black to my house! They are little clowns too, and very affectionate, being bred to warm the laps of rich people, way back when! They are great with kids, and being one of the larger of the toy breeds, they are quite sturdy. They say a Pug is proof that God has a sense of humor! (I think it was mostly man, not God, who made the Pug the way he is today!) But I love the curly tail and the snorting and snoring!
I also love the Frenchies. They are so dog gone cute. (I guess I have a thing for the smushed faces!) But I have heard that they, like the Bulldogs, have to be electro-ejaculated and artificially inseminated and set up for c-sections. That seems like we have bred them to the point of being unable to breed. and it bothers me. I raised the Puggies for about six years. Dudley never had trouble doing the deed, and the girls never needed a c-section.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read!! Groucho Marx
Thank you so much for the wonderful replies! I have always loved Frenchies, too!!!! I always said that one day I would have one, but any of the reputable breeders that I know of sell them for about $2,400. I bit more than I can spend. I realize that their costs are high and they also don't want everyone and his brother breeding them. I have talked to someone that said that her males could never successfully breed her females, so her costs were so high between doing everything artificial and the c-sections. I was told that Frenchies have a very hard time reaching their bottoms to clean it. It seems like a lot of people that have a Boston also have a Frenchie. Also, thank you dusty, for your kind words! We miss Candy every day!
" I was told that Frenchies have a very hard time reaching their bottoms to clean it "
Isnt that the truth ! One thing with having four of them, they groom each other. They seem to want to pick times when company is here and they have an audience. I think they prefer to let off gas whenever the most people are in a room too. And they can clear out a room in a matter of minutes. lol Although Frenchies are common for c-sections, i dont think they have breeding problems like the English Bulldogs. Alot of breeders that i have spoken too, have not used AI as a must, but more as a safety precaution against diseases like Brucillosis. My frenchies bred naturally with no problem, and the mother delivered naturally. I did rush her to emergency, just in case there were any problems. As for shedding, three of mine are black masked fawns. Only my male is a shedder, but he is double coated. The other two have very little shedding at all. And my reverse brindle girl doesnt seem to shed at all.
Bostons and frenchies are so similar in appearance and personality. Some of the Piebald frenchies are hard to tell from a boston when you are just seeing headshots. Frenchies are shorter legged and stockier built. From my experience , i think the frenchies seem to be less hyper and have more of a " I love everything" personality. Or maybe its just an " i dont give a dang " one. lol
"No Matter how little money and how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich." - Louis Sabin
dusty, I guess when people come to your house they have to have a sense of humor when it comes to your dogs. :) I love the fawns, I think its my favorite Frenchie color. I had a Boxer with a black mask and by the time she was 10 or 11 her black mask was all white.