My almost 5 year old English bulldog was diagnosed with having struvite crystals a month ago. I have taken him to two different vets. The first vet I took him to said he did not have a bladder infection and put him on Methio-Form (4 pills a day). After 2 weeks(when he finished up the Methio-Form) I took him to my bulldog vet and he said he had a bladder infection and he put him on a week of Clavamox(375mg 2x's a day) and they also took an xray and Mason does not have bladder stones. Well with Mason I can see the crystals when he pees on his pee pads at night. So I called my bulldog vet back about a week ago and he told me to put him on Vitamin C for a little while and see how that goes. Well I am still seeing crystals in Mason's urine and he did not pee last night before he went to bed and he still has not which of course is not like him so I am getting worried. Mason has major allergies so he can not be put on a prescription diet because they all have chicken products in them. He is currently eating natural balance vension and sweet potato and is drinking purified water(I did take him off of it a few months ago when my purifier messed up but he has been back on it for a month now). Do any of you know of a good food that might help with his crystals that does not have chicken, eggs, beef or milk products in it? I have read online that a low carb/high protein/grain free diet is best to have them on but the thing is trying to find something that I can get close by and that Mason is not allergic to. I would appreciate any suggestions and sorry for such a long post.
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try taste of the wild, its a grainless dry dog food that my bullies just love, and they are very healthy. take a look at there website it will give you additional info on the 3 types of food they offer.
Thanks I tried taste of the wild before the pacific formula and Mason did terrible on it. He had major yeast issues and of course he can't have either one of the other formulas because they have chicken meal and egg product in them. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Bladder Infection, UTI? Struvite Crystals, Bladder Stones? So many terms and only one definition. Some or most people will disagree with me on this comment- but I wonder why your vet used an x-ray and not an ultrasound? Weird. Did he feel the stones then, when checking Mason? I assume the x-ray was done first because your vet felt the stones and there might have been a possible need for surgery but how much more $$$ did that cost you compared to doing an ultrasound? What about a cup-o-pee? Stones or crystals that are too big to pass require surgery. But I think a good vet would know how big a milimeter is compared to 14 mm. And with a sample he or she would be able to identify what type of stone/cyrstal. Anyways, you're seeing crystals as Mason urinates? Good. I would say the Clavamox is doing the whole antibiotics thing and seeing the crystals is a good thing. They are suppose to be flushed out during urination. It hurts but needs to pass, and that may be why Mason does not want to urinate: Hence the delay. If you have the pads, what color are the stones? I've wonder why Clavamox was used for only a week though? Two weeks should've been proper. Whatever, I just hope you used it long enough for it to work and Mason does not get it again. Sometimes antibiotics may be needed for months after completing a culture of the urine. You did give a cup-o-pee to the vet right? Maybe from the culture your vet decided a week, who knows. You should ask the next time you go in though, for my sake of knowledge too please.
Struvite Crystals are easier to break up with a change of diet, so I think you have the right idea of changing his diet. Except I think a low amount of protein is what you meant. Naturalistic or Hollistic foods are only a choice by proposed quality, taste, and cost; I'm not going to debate you and others about the type of food you should choose but I see no problem with using Purina Proplan Sensitive Stomach brand (pink), it's what I feed. You should use it accordingly to Mason's allergies. What allergies does he have anyways? Vitamin C will help prevent the bacterial growth by the acidic increase but did your vet offer you pills or powder of vitamin C or just told you to add vitamin C? Use vitamin C if your vet provided it but finding your own source is shady because an pH increase may cause severe and worse type of stones. Then you'll have another diet to find for Mason. You can increase the alkaline content in urine with milk (Although Mason is allegeric as you said), fruits, and fresh vegetables. Not just a pointed power pellet popping people generation. That's a lot of p. The last time one of my bully's had a UTI, no cyrstals, I added half a teaspoon of baking soda in their water at the first signs of UTI. It's hard in the winter, where bulldogs urinate so low and "dip their wick" in the same gross spot. So I have to clean those bully areas more often I normally do with water, sugar, lemon juice wash-cloth combo. I add different things in their food to help their immune system, skin, and etc. In the summer I add white vinegar to their water sometimes for the sake of my grass (which works sometimes). Yogurt, canola oil, cottage cheese, lemon juice, fresh fruits and vegetables, different things help. But remember addition of vitiamin C or a change in diet may change the urine pH that can lead to problems that weren't there before. There are a lot of possible crystal and stone types, and they respond differently to urine pH. Struvite stones and calcium phosphate stones are less likely to form in acid urine, but calcium oxalate stones are much more likely to form in acid urine. I believe peeing and pooping is important to a healthy dog and is the first diagonstic tool owners can use to determine a problem with your pet. You put this type of food in here and this type of poo comes out here. What's in the dog? good stuff, bad stuff?
By the way, I don't care that you give filtered water to Mason but I just wanted to let you know... hopefully no one opens my ear for this one, but I give my bully's bottled water. I have well water but it's got salt from the softner or minerals from the filter that make it tastes wierd. I drink mass amounts of bottled water and therefore so should my pets - with left over water in used bottles or actual large 3 liters stackers that are so cool. I spoil my family. Tomato juice is an interesting option, never tried it for an UTI specifically. Good one KB.
Oh! I forgot to mention that if you're having problems with Mason urinating or a continued UTI and crystal-izing problem, you should skip the day vet and bulldog vet and go directly to a specialist for kidneys and bladders. I would hate for an issue of kidney failure to be a root cause of the problem: With the inability to concentrate or dilute, pH, Specific Gravity, protein, creatine, ohmigod there's so much to it just to have our bully's go "tinkle" good.
But I think it'll go away in like a week... Who knows. I wish you had a more information "sharing" vet. It sounds like he just tells you what to do and no "why" behind the what. Why is Mason walking only on his hind legs barking into a blackberry? -Change of diet.
Mason does not have bladder stones, it is just little crystals which have not formed into the stones as of yet. The vet took the x-ray to make sure he did not have bladder stones. I did take a urine sample to both vets like I said before and the local vet said he did not have a bladder infection but my bulldog vet said he had a bladder infection. I have read on several websites to give them a high protein/low carb/grain free diet but then I have heard several people tell me to give a low protein diet so I am so confused. I am going to try to get him a vet appointment tomorrow and bring in another urine sample to see if the antibiotics got rid of the bladder infection or if he is going to have to go back on antibiotics. If he does not clear up soon I am going to take him to a specialist. Yesterday he really had me worried because he only peed 1 time the whole day and of course that isn't normal. Today he has already peed once so we will see how it goes today but I am for sure going to try to get him an appointment tomorrow either way.
Yeah it is confusing... I've always heard that low protein is better for the breakdown of crystals. A high protein would gather and create more or bigger crystals. Well, I hope some answers come out tomorrow. Let me know too please. I'm hoping Mason's just going to need to be on antibotics longer like I said. One week just doesn't seem long enough.
I had found the tomato juice thing a long time ago when they had stopped making something else I was using to help prevent crystals. It DID seem to help and in my case I already had good diet and water ect. so I believe it worked :-). It's supposed to alter the ph or something (so long ago I couldn't remember all of it). I decided to see if I could find it again......... http://www.indianjurol.com/article.asp?issn=0970-1591;year=2009;volume=25;issue=1;spage=149;epage=150;aulast=Agrawal
I searched for urine crystals and tomato juice. I also read just the opposite (that it could cause UT problems), so I guess it's just a study up, talk to your vet and see what results you get kind of thing?????