We just bought a puppy from a local person (not a breeder) who had a liter of 6 yorkie/schnauzer puppies. They are not the toy or miniature breed, the parents were 10-12 lbs I would guess. The puppy was 6 weeks old and around 2 1/2 lbs when we got him. He had typical puppy behavior, very energetic, curious and happy. He liked to play with us and then would curl up next to us and sleep. The person we bought them from didn't take very good care of the dogs, they had fleas and worms. We took him to the vet and they gave us a worm treatment and some flea treatment. Charlie (the dog) had a very bad reaction to one or the other. He vomitted 8-10 times and could hardly walk. We took him back to the vet and they gave him fluids and told us to watch him. He had a lot of problems controlling his limbs and walkinig for a few days but then he seemed to be feeling better for about 24 hours. Then his nose started running to the point that his fur around his mouth is always soaking wet. He still seemed kind of happy though. Over the next day or so he got less and less energetic and less social. I took him back and they gave him antibiotics and said to watch him again. He will seem somewhat happy for little periods but then he spends most of his time following the edges of the room with his head down, tail down and paying no attention to where he is going. He wines the whole time he is doing this. He doesn't want to interact with us and doesn't respond when we call his name. The vet said he might be depressed because he isn't feeling well, but I feel like I'm watching my cute little puppy just deteriorate right in front of me. I'm almost scared to sleep because he might not be alive when I wake up. He has no temp and is eating and drinking just fine but he's so depressed looking and has no excitement in his eyes anymore. I'm hoping someone else may know what could be wrong?
I would go seek another vet. The flea meds could be poison to him. They could be slowly killing him. He was way to young to be away from his mom and siblings. You should not have gotten him until he was 8wks old. I would actually go to an emergancy vet tonight, I wouldn't wait. If the toxins in the flea meds reach his organs, he could go into organ failure. It is unusual, but possible.
My poodle had a bad reaction to flea spot on meds. I refuse to use them now on any of my dogs.
I didn't think they should be separating the puppies that soon either. I think they just couldn't afford to keep them. I know they sold all of the puppies, so if I hadn't purchased him someone else would have. The vet said that it was the worming pill. We only gave him half of the flea medication which was topical, and half of the worming pill. We took him to the vet about 30 minutes after we gave him the medications and they gave him a bath to wash off the flea medication as well as some fluids to keep him from getting dehydrated. We love the puppy already, he is already a big part of our family, as are our other dogs (and children!). I have placed a call with the emergency vet in our area but they seem baffled as well. We have called the manufacturer of the flea med and they claim that unless the medication was given orally or licked it cannot be the source of our problems. The manufacturer of the wormer said that it has been recorded to cause vomiting and lethargy in a very small percentage of cases. But even after all of this he still didn't have the symptoms he has now. He did finally lay down and go to sleep though about 25 minutes ago. Does anyone know if hypoglycemia can cause this confusion and dissatisfaction?
Sugar shock could be a possiblity, esp. if he is small. You could get some nutro-cal from a pet store
I don't trust the flea med companies. I had a poodle have a serious reaction, and she didn't lick it. My boss does a bichon, and if she knows it comming she will bite. I think they feel it, and the stuff soaks into their skin. What is to keep it from causing a reaction when chemicals are soaked into their skin. that is all flea meds are. As far as the dewormer, I do not know anything about them. I have always dewormed my puppies and dogs with over the counter stuff. It is easy to use. Keep watching her, and keep bugging your vet. Something doesn't sound right at all.
I had a Toy Poodle years ago that had a problem similar to this and my vet at the time had me giving him Karo Syrup mixed with some orange juice to give him the sugar he was lacking.. Dogs store their sugar in their liver and if he is small he may not be storing enough sugar because his liver is so small and that may be why he is lethargic.. I use a topical flea product for my dogs Frontline but the dogs must be 8 weeks of age and older before the Frontline can be used on them.. What brand did you use since some were given a bad report by the FDA.. Has your vet done blood work on this dog and checked for Parvo because some of your dogs symptoms mirror Parvo.. I also agree this dog was too young to be taken away from his mother most states have a 10 week minimum ..
As I'm re-reading your post it sounds more like the flea treatment is having a bad effect on this puppy a good bath in Dawn liquid detergent generally removes the flea treatments and you might want to check the FDA or the ASPCA web sites to check on that flea treatment it may be the one that was banned for awhile due to the deaths of some animals..
Thanks so much for all of your advice, I have 6 other dogs (outside dogs) that I have rescued or adopted and this is the first puppy I have purchased (although with the conditions in the home it felt like a rescue!) and I have never had any health issues with my other dogs so I just feel so helpless! The last two days the strangest part is that he is happy and social in the morning and at about 5:00 he just gets down and circles the house with his nose down with no regard to what is in his path. He doesn't even go around things he just goes over them or pushes them with his nose. And he also has more drainage from his nose/mouth in the evening. I'm not sure if he is drooling or if his nose is running. Why does he just do this in the evening? And if it is hypoglycemia, what is causing the wetness around his mouth? All advice greatly appreciated!
Still sounds like this puppy is having a low sugar problem just like humans the sugar level drop during the late day.. I would keep him away from the other dogs and definitely find a new vet to do some blood work.. As a quick fix try the Karo Syrup and orange juice mix 2 to 1 mixture 2 tbsp orange juice 1 tbsp of the Karo Syrup but he doesn't need to drink all of it.. The runny nose may be from something else internal going on in the pup.. Was he tested for Parvo ?
Just an updatefor eveyone, Charlie had a really bad spell tonight and was completely unresponsive, running into walls, drooling from his mouth with his mouth hanging open. I was very scary. We took him on an emergency call to his vet and they did some blood work and believe he has a Portosystemic Shunt. This would explain why he had such a bad reaction to the flea medication and wormer. Unfortunately it also means charlie will have a life span of only about 18-24 month of age. We aren't sure yet if the low protein dog food will help him or not. The damage could already be too severe. There is the surgical option but we don't have $5,000 required for that, so lets just hope this ne food and medication helps and I will keep you updated on our progress. Thanks again for taking the time to answer our health concearn we really appreciate all of you for that.
I hope that your pup does okay! That's so scary. We put our turst in vets and hope that they are doing right, but sometimes a second opinion is necessary ASAP, especially if the pup seems to be continuing to go down hill. It the surgery would save my puppy, $5000 or not, I'd do it! Find a vet that will let you make payments. Keep us posted.
First of all...like everyone said, those puppies should not have been separated from their mom until 8 weeks. Secondly, I would report them to the humane society as lack of proper medical care is neglect. If your pup has worms and is sick...all pups and mom have worms and are sick, along with any other dogs in that household. He may have 1 of the diseases that are in the gammet of kennel cough. He doesn't necessarily have to cough to have kennel cough. Nasal discharge is one of the signs. Kennel cough is made up of 4 diseases essentially. You could have one of the symptoms, but not all. I believe the issue with your pup may be that he still has a belly full of worms. Unless he is given prazyquanzil to kill tape worm, he might still have these. I recommend a stool sample and a CBC. The CBC will tell a lot...and if you want to save your pups life, I would recommend it. It should cost around $75-$150. Get him on an antibiotic such as Cephalexin...and reworm him. As for the people not being able to "afford" the pups care anymore....was the pup a freebie...or did you pay for it. If he was a freebie...they probably just couldn't stand dealing with the puppy cleanup anymore. If you paid for him, they wanted the money and to be done with the cleanup. I don't know what state you live in, but in most states, it is against the law to sell or give away a puppy less than 8 weeks old. Good luck with your puppy...he will be in my prayers.
Didn't finish reading all the posts before I posted...If you paid any money for Charlie, they are responsible for vet bills up to the full cost of your puppy. I would seek at least that. Charlie deserves it...he also deserves for his mom to be in a better home than that. Glad he's in good hands. My philosophy is that you shouldn't breed unless you are bettering the breed. "Designer" breeds are mixed breeds no matter how you slice it. There are so many dogs cats and puppies in the shelters these days...If you are not a show home breeding quality dogs with all health testing in place on both parents, don't breed your dogs. There are so many cute puppies that are being put to sleep daily because shelters are over run. In the southern states, they put dogs in gas chamber in quantities. Please, have your pet spayed or neutered if it is not a show dog and you don't intend to breed it.